The facts about Marvin's production

[Wurider05]

Game By Game Stats

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Regular

Feb 08 vs. PHI L 83 - 117 29 5 - 10 0 - 2 0 - 0 3 7 10 0 0 1 2 0 10

Feb 05 @ WAS W 99 - 92 41 5 - 11 1 - 2 4 - 4 2 10 12 0 1 0 0 4 15

Feb 04 vs. LAC W 101 - 100 29 3 - 9 1 - 2 2 - 2 2 4 6 1 0 0 1 3 9

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Jan 28 vs. NYK W 111 - 102 27 3 - 6 0 - 1 6 - 6 0 4 4 2 0 1 1 2 12

Jan 26 @ MIL L 90 - 98 13 2 - 6 1 - 1 2 - 2 1 4 5 0 0 0 0 0 7

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Dec 29 vs. GSW W 103 - 93 27 3 - 7 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 3 3 3 0 0 1 2 6

Dec 27 @ MIL W 95 - 80 24 6 - 9 1 - 1 1 - 1 2 3 5 0 0 0 1 1 14

Dec 26 @ NOH L 86 - 93 33 5 - 11 1 - 3 7 - 7 2 3 5 0 0 0 2 0 18

Dec 22 vs. CLE W 98 - 84 40 7 - 11 3 - 6 0 - 1 1 3 4 1 0 0 0 1 17

Dec 20 vs. ORL W 91 - 81 26 4 - 8 1 - 3 3 - 5 2 7 9 2 1 0 0 1 12

Dec 19 @ NJN L 82 - 89 34 4 - 9 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 4 4 3 3 0 2 2 8

Dec 17 vs. CHA W 90 - 85 35 5 - 11 2 - 6 4 - 4 2 6 8 2 1 0 1 0 16

Dec 16 @ BOS L 90 - 102 36 9 - 15 1 - 3 7 - 9 2 3 5 1 0 1 4 3 26

Dec 14 @ DET L 80 - 103 30 1 - 4 1 - 3 3 - 4 0 5 5 3 0 0 0 2 6

Dec 11 vs. IND W 97 - 83 28 4 - 6 1 - 2 1 - 2 0 0 0 2 1 1 1 3 10

Dec 10 @ SAS L 92 - 108 42 5 - 10 2 - 3 3 - 4 0 7 7 0 1 0 2 0 15

Dec 07 vs. NJN W 116 - 101 24 2 - 6 0 - 2 3 - 4 1 3 4 2 0 0 0 2 7

Dec 06 @ ORL W 80 - 74 21 1 - 6 0 - 2 0 - 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 2 2

Dec 04 @ MIA L 77 - 89 32 2 - 9 1 - 4 0 - 0 0 4 4 2 1 0 1 0 5

Dec 03 vs. PHI W 93 - 88 34 7 - 12 0 - 1 8 - 8 0 2 2 0 4 0 1 5 22

Dec 01 vs. MEM W 112 - 109 41 6 - 11 0 - 1 3 - 4 0 4 4 3 1 0 0 1 15

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Nov 28 @ TOR W 96 - 78 37 6 - 11 2 - 3 3 - 4 3 9 12 1 1 1 0 2 17

Nov 27 @ NYK W 99 - 90 29 5 - 7 0 - 0 3 - 3 3 5 8 2 0 0 1 0 13

Nov 25 vs. WAS W 116 - 96 24 3 - 7 0 - 1 0 - 0 1 3 4 0 1 0 2 3 6

Nov 23 @ NJN L 101 - 107 24 3 - 4 1 - 1 0 - 0 0 2 2 0 0 1 1 1 7

Nov 22 vs. BOS L 76 - 99 17 1 - 6 0 - 1 0 - 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 2

Nov 20 vs. DAL L 93 - 98 27 3 - 5 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 1 1 2 0 1 2 2 6

Nov 16 @ IND W 102 - 92 24 4 - 8 0 - 1 3 - 3 0 2 2 1 1 0 1 1 11

Nov 14 vs. MIN W 111 - 105 28 3 - 8 0 - 1 3 - 4 3 4 7 2 1 1 1 2 9

Nov 12 vs. UTA L 86 - 90 30 2 - 8 1 - 3 0 - 0 2 4 6 1 0 0 1 2 5

Nov 03 vs. DET W 94 - 85 33 3 - 8 0 - 1 5 - 6 0 8 8 2 0 0 0 1 11

Nov 02 @ CLE W 100 - 88 36 8 - 12 1 - 3 5 - 6 1 3 4 2 1 0 2 2 22

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Oct 30 vs. WAS W 99 - 95 21 0 - 3 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 4 4 2 0 0 0 3 0

Oct 29 @ PHI W 104 - 101 33 3 - 8 0 - 3 0 - 1 2 5 7 1 0 0 2 2 6

Oct 27 @ MEM W 119 - 104 31 5 - 6 0 - 1 5 - 6 2 5 7 0 0 1 1 0 15

Oct 22 @ CHA PRE L 66 - 99 23 2 - 8 2 - 5 0 - 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 1 1 6

Oct 21 vs. MIA PRE W 98 - 89 31 4 - 8 1 - 2 0 - 0 1 10 11 2 0 0 0 4 9

Oct 18 vs. ORL PRE L 73 - 102 28 1 - 10 1 - 3 2 - 4 2 3 5 0 3 0 0 0 5

Oct 16 @ NOH PRE W 84 - 74 33 4 - 10 1 - 3 6 - 7 1 4 5 3 2 0 1 3 15

Oct 07 vs. MEM PRE L 111 - 115 36 5 - 10 2 - 2 6 - 7 1 9 10 3 1 0 1 2 18

Look at the numbers. It clearly shows that whenever he gets shots he produces. Bad pick or not you can't argue with the numbers. These are simply the facts. More involvement in the offense=better Marvin.

[macdaddy]

Which is why he should be coming off bench.

[DJlaysitup]

Which is why he should be coming off bench.

Exactly MacDad...off the bench he is a viable offensive option.

[tbhawksfan]

Wow, you just spotted a relationship between Field Goals Attempted and Points Scored. Amazing.

There may be another point in the post if you look past sarcasm. MW could be a producer. The Hawks need work at the ownershio, coaching and team play. We have players and possibilities but wr're only getting by on talent. But the potential isn't being reached; see MW.

[Guest Walter]

There may be another point in the post if you look past sarcasm. MW could be a producer. The Hawks need work at the ownershio, coaching and team play. We have players and possibilities but wr're only getting by on talent. But the potential isn't being reached; see MW.

"MW could be a producer"...Oh, how the MW apologists have fallen. From KB's 25/12 to >5 time all-star to Dolfan's to a "producer". Ugh.

Let's be clear here. MW is to blame for his poor development to this point. He was GIVEN the starting Sf job and has had if for 4 years. He spends his off-seasons only (at best) half invested in his chosen profession. If the fate of coaches depended upon MW "reaching his potential" every GD NBA head coach would have be fired or quit by now.

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[Jody23]

I'm not trying to hate on Marvin, but the truth is "game recognizes game". Every reason and excuse under the sun has been given as to why he's not what so many hoped (and still hope?) he would be. His game doesn't warrant giving him more shots because he's not that kind of player. I'm sure there are many (some in the Hawks org.) who want Marvin to get more shots as a way to make him seem more relevant and to thus, save face. However, if you're totally objective and honest about it, the truth is the truth. Not hating on the guy. It just is what it is. On the contrary, when you're not totally objective about what you're observng on the floor, you can end up making decisions that hinder your franchise for years.

[Joker]

Good talent, marginal player, poor fit. That should be Marvin's player report with the Hawks.

[Wretch]

Yeah...the point is valid. Given shots Marvin can score. But........................I think we've been dancing around that for a long time. Marvin will never be the player we drafted him (or paid him) to be.

[Seano]

I think the Hawks should hire somebody to punch Marvin in the gut right before the opening tip-off of every game, because when he is motivated, fired-up, pissed off or has a chip on his shoulder for whatever reason, he can really be a pretty good player, and the difference is like night and day between that iteration of Marvin and the passive and non-assertive Marvin we usually see.