GST Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Billy Knight's draft picks:2003: Boris Diaw, Travis Hansen2004: Josh Childress, Josh Smith, Donta Smith, Royal Ivey2005: Marvin Williams, Salim Stoudamire2006: Shelden Williams, Solomon Jones2007: Al Horford, Acie LawAl Horford is the only one still with the team.Of the ex-Hawks, 5 were traded to another team, the rest left without the Hawks receiving compensation.Diaw and two 1st round picks were traded for Joe Johnson.Childress was finally traded for a 2nd round pick which eventually became Mike Scott.Marvin was traded for Devin Harris.Shelden was part of the Mike Bibby trade.Acie was part of the Jamal Crawford trade.My point here is the Hawks have done an extremely poor job of preserving the value of high 1st round picks. I think we could have gotten quite a bit more for Josh Childress, Josh Smith, and Marvin Williams if we had not sat on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 13, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Billy Knight's draft picks:2003: Boris Diaw, Travis Hansen2004: Josh Childress, Josh Smith, Donta Smith, Royal Ivey2005: Marvin Williams, Salim Stoudamire2006: Shelden Williams, Solomon Jones2007: Al Horford, Acie LawAl Horford is the only one still with the team.Of the ex-Hawks, 5 were traded to another team, the rest left without the Hawks receiving compensation.Diaw and two 1st round picks were traded for Joe Johnson.Childress was finally traded for a 2nd round pick which eventually became Mike Scott.Marvin was traded for Devin Harris.Shelden was part of the Mike Bibby trade.Acie was part of the Jamal Crawford trade.My point here is the Hawks have done an extremely poor job of preserving the value of high 1st round picks. I think we could have gotten quite a bit more for Josh Childress, Josh Smith, and Marvin Williams if we had not sat on them. Welcome to the important part of GMing. It's sad that we got more for Josh Childress than we got for Josh Smith.It's sad that we got more for Acie and Shelden than we will get for Joe. What bugs me is that last year, we knew we were going nowhere in the playoffs yet we denied every deal for Josh Smith.. Then this offseason, it's like we didn't even talk to him. This Elitism from the FO is not going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) yet we denied every deal for Josh Smith.. Cool, so you are in this meetings? Edited July 13, 2013 by RWF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 There were some bad picks but you're ignorant if you think that Horford, Smith, Childress, and Marvin weren't a part of a successful few years here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Only 4 of them are still in the NBA too. Sad, sad drafting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 You cannot preserve the value of a high pick if they were the wrong picks in the first place.Just bad bad drafting - no getting around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Thanks to a little bit of luck in that 07 draft. We could have ended up with Oden had we got the #1 pick. You know BK in his smug way would have said "There I didn't take a SF for once." When in fact that would have been the year to take a SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Only 4 of them are still in the NBA too. Sad, sad drafting.One was amnestied and two didn't have the 4th year options on their rookie contracts picked up too. Just poor value all around but it is a tad bit shocking that Diaw and Ivey were probably his least touted selections yet they are still around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 This Elitism from the FO is not going to work.This is so true. If they dont match Teague it reeks of elitism and ego. This ship will be sunk fast with that attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Cool, so you are in this meetings?You're doing gods work today sir. If I had the power you'd get the Purple Heart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 The Heat proved that BK's formula of 6'9 players with no real pg or c could win championships. He just picked the wrong guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted July 13, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 This is so true. If they dont match Teague it reeks of elitism and ego. This ship will be sunk fast with that attitude.Lol. What? Not matching Jeff Teague potrays elitism and ego? C'mon, you can't seriously believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Lol. What? Not matching Jeff Teague potrays elitism and ego? C'mon, you can't seriously believe that.Shhhh, don't get in the way of the new catchphrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 You're doing gods work today sir. If I had the power you'd get the Purple Heart I try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 BK was really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Nah, they've just done a piss poor job of drafting. Period. End of discussion.The fact that none of those misfires by BK has done next to nothing since leaving here says more than enough. Again, we wouldn't be having a debate on tanking if even a C-list GM was in charge a decade ago. I don't even want to talk about it anymore... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klesko12 Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Nah, they've just done a piss poor job of drafting. Period. End of discussion.The fact that none of those misfires by BK has done next to nothing since leaving here says more than enough. Again, we wouldn't be having a debate on tanking if even a C-list GM was in charge a decade ago.I don't even want to talk about it anymore...We have to start drafting Production instead of upside, upside has been VERY unkind the past 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 13, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Cool, so you are in this meetings? Go to the meeting for yourself Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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