4-way trade to get Carmelo to Houston

[nathan2331]

Hawks trade: Paul Millsap and Lou Williams

Hawks receive: Omer Asik, Aaron Afflalo and Tobias Harris

Magic trade: Aaron Afflalo and Tobias Harris

Magic receive: Paul Millsap and Chandler Parsons

Rockets trade: Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Chandler Parsons, the#27 pick and a future first

Rockets receive: Carmelo Anthony

Knicks trade: Carmelo Anthony

Knicks receive: Jeremy Lin, Lou Williams, the #27 pick and a future first via the Rockets

Why Orlando does it: It allows the Magic to draft Exum at 4 (by moving Oladipo to SG) and gives them an effective starting lineup of: Exum/Oladipo/Parsons/Millsap/Vucevic

Why Houston does it: They clear out their mess of contracts and land the third star they're so keen on in a sign and trade.

Why the New York does it: They acquire some draft picks while receiving some expiring contracts for the 2015 draft class. They get some compensation for Carmelo and bring Linsanity back to New York.

Why we do it: We turn Millsap and Williams into three players who can be important for us. I also flirted with the idea of the #12 pick for Schröder but I didn't think it would be good for either team.

We'd be left with:

Teague/Mack/Schröder

Afflalo/Korver/(Draft Pick-Young)

Harris/Carroll/

Horford/Scott/Muscala

Asik/Antić/Bebe

And we still maintain a bit of cap space for this upcoming season. So, what do you think?

[Guest]

Orlando Magic get the best of this 3 way deal IMHO.

[nathan2331]

Orlando Magic get the best of this 3 way deal IMHO.

They do, but I thought we got fair value of Millsap from them. Perhaps a pick swap or we get their pick outright?

[Vol4ever]

Hell no, we ain't giving up Sap to make Houston freakin better.

[nathan2331]

Hell no, we ain't giving up Sap to make Houston freakin better.

Did you look at the trade? Houston gets nothing from us and we actually get pretty good value for Millsap.

[nathan2331]

Houston is over a barrel and can't get off unless some dumb team (s) let them off by taking Lin/Asik. I'm hoping we stay out of it.

Stop worrying about Houston and look at how we potentially improve. Afflalo and Harris upgrade 2 positions. Horford moves to PF. We retain cap space while getting a player who has All-star potential.

[Guest]

They do, but I thought we got fair value of Millsap from them. Perhaps a pick swap or we get their pick outright?

If by pick swap you mean we get the 4th pick while they get our 15th pick then hell yes I do it for sure.

[Guest]

If by pick swap you mean we get the 4th pick while they get our 15th pick then hell yes I do it for sure.

Getting their pick outright would be highway robbery and I'd love it :-)

[TJR4536]

we just got millsap for the 1st year he has one of his best seasons EVER ! Makes all star team, and now you guys WANT TO TRADE HIM. Im a die hard hawks fan and if you guys cant appreciate what he did in 1 year what "J-Smoove" could never do, lol guys come on we finally got a good group together and you want to trade them all away for some players who may not even fit into Buds system. Man.....................

[TJR4536]

Also chandler parsons, and melo are free agents so this could never happend

[ATLHawks3]

Also chandler parsons, and melo are free agents so this could never happend

Sign and trade.

[nathan2331]

If by pick swap you mean we get the 4th pick while they get our 15th pick then hell yes I do it for sure.

I actually meant the 12th pick. There's no way they'd do it for the 4th (I wish).

[nathan2331]

It's not so much worrying about what Houston gets, it's acknowledgement that none of these deals happen absent Houston's desire to unload Asik/Lin for nothing in return.

I should also preface my comments with the fact that I'm not totally sure Horford is better for us at the 4. None of the players added in the deal are all-star caliber IMO. Asik is a slightly above average specialist who's paid like he's Lebron.

In this deal, Harris is the player who I think could be an All- star. He can't shoot the 3, but he's pretty efficient nonetheless. He averaged over 17 ppg and 8 rpg per 36 min and I think he has the potential to do more.

I feel that moving forward, we have to move Horford to PF. He may not be handing in trade requests, but he will be a free agent soon. I honestly think he's fine at center right now, but at the same time he's made it clear he thinks he's a PF. Asik is inferior to Millsap, but that difference is offset by Afflalo who adds scoring and shooting to our team. I just feel that with this trade, we upgrade in multiple positions while maintaining flexibility.

[Guest]

I actually meant the 12th pick. There's no way they'd do it for the 4th (I wish).

The 12th outright yes, swap no.

[nathan2331]

The 12th outright yes, swap no.

I think it turns into an overpay by the Magic then. Afflalo and Harris together IMO are better than Millsap- and in two positions we need upgrading in.

[capstone21]

This is a good trade for all teAms and def makes us a lot better

[Admin]

Wow Atlanta make out like bandits here. We get 3 starters for 1 and a 6th man. Harris has the potential to be a real stud as he's a better rebounding SF than even Kawhi. If he can get some type of 3pt shot he's a potential All Star in out system. Afflalo is a stud as well. DMC and Korver go to the bench, Horfird moves to the 4 and Asik locks down the paint. We'd be outstanding defensively and rebound wise and dangerous enough from outside. I really like it from our perspective.

[nathan2331]

Wow Atlanta make out like bandits here. We get 3 starters for 1 and a 6th man. Harris has the potential to be a real stud as he's a better rebounding SF than even Kawhi. If he can get some type of 3pt shot he's a potential All Star in out system. Afflalo is a stud as well. DMC and Korver go to the bench, Horfird moves to the 4 and Asik locks down the paint. We'd be outstanding defensively and rebound wise and dangerous enough from outside. I really like it from our perspective.

That's what I'm saying. There's value in this deal for all sides, but we do very well. If we are serious about moving Horford to C, this is the way I'd go about it.

[Guest]

I'm not in love with Tobias Harris, his production won't last very long. He's a poor man's big baby.

[nathan2331]

I'm not in love with Tobias Harris, his production won't last very long. He's a poor man's big baby.

How do you see that? From the little film I've seen, the only similarities between the two is that they don't jump high. While he's no stopper defensively, I wouldn't say he's bad to the point of no improvement. And I don't see how his production isn't sustainable. He's shown the ability the get to the basket and finish effectively without relying on athleticism alone (70.5% FG around the rim). He rebounds very well for his position. Not to mention he's only 21. He's a jump shot away from being an all-star, and I bet he'd shine with us.