Hawks calling up Austin Daye

[MaceCase]

Decent Mike Scott insurance. Knock on him used to be his defense (and a bit of whininess) but we weren't exactly expecting any sort of defense out of Scott to begin with. Brings the range and explosive scoring that the team is now lacking.

[JTB]

Decent Mike Scott insurance. Knock on him used to be his defense (and a bit of whininess) but we weren't exactly expecting any sort of defense out of Scott to begin with. Brings the range and explosive scoring that the team is now lacking.

I don't know man! Did you happen to read my post above on an article about Dayes time in San Antonio? It doesn't sound to good and he seems to be a chunker according to this!

"You can get away with a lot of things as a Spur. You can be a poor defender or a poor rebounder, a poor interview (encouraged, actually) or even a poor dresser, but the one thing you absolutely cannot do while playing for Pop is refuse to make the next pass, turning a so-so look into a good one and a good one into a great one. Daye was too chuckeriffic with the ball and not nearly accurate enough or skillful in other areas to compensate for that. He was a one-trick pony that wasn't even at all good with that one trick, and now he's gone, a gamble that didn't pay off for the Spurs any more than it did for Memphis, Detroit or Toronto before them. Daye probably needs to go overseas to make something of his basketball career"

[MaceCase]

I don't know man! Did you happen to read my post above on an article about Dayes time in San Antonio? It doesn't sound to good and he seems to be a chunker according to this!

"You can get away with a lot of things as a Spur. You can be a poor defender or a poor rebounder, a poor interview (encouraged, actually) or even a poor dresser, but the one thing you absolutely cannot do while playing for Pop is refuse to make the next pass, turning a so-so look into a good one and a good one into a great one. Daye was too chuckeriffic with the ball and not nearly accurate enough or skillful in other areas to compensate for that. He was a one-trick pony that wasn't even at all good with that one trick, and now he's gone, a gamble that didn't pay off for the Spurs any more than it did for Memphis, Detroit or Toronto before them. Daye probably needs to go overseas to make something of his basketball career"

Yea, that describes Mike Scott to the T too so it doesn't exactly bother me that they are giving a guy a tryout to duplicate the role that Scott brought to the team.

[BraveSeminole]

Replacement for Mike Scott.

 

I must have missed something!  What is wrong with Mike Scott?  

[BraveSeminole]

He always has been a torn in our side. Let's hope he's like Flip Murray and Jamal Crawford for us and not Jerrell Eddie and Jeremy Richardson

 

 

I know these are just highlights but this player (Daye) sure looks pretty good!  

[rd79]

I must have missed something! What is wrong with Mike Scott?

Broken toe

[JTB]

Yea, that describes Mike Scott to the T too so it doesn't exactly bother me that they are giving a guy a tryout to duplicate the role that Scott brought to the team.

Maybe so I always felt that scott gave more than what he is credited for...this season anyways...scott is shooting the 3ball well (no surprise), sharing the ball (good enough from what I can see) and defending better than what most thought he was capable of! Even lebron gave scott props on defense after that last cavs defeat.

I don't think of scott as a chunker when he comes off the bench or this board would have been going nuts months ago if he truly was a chunker but that's how Daye is being described from his time in San Antonio and if that's true he won't make it past his 10 day contract but maybe coach bud can make something work that coach pop failed at...who knows!

But I must say if Daye actually get the opportunity to play and he chunks up shots I'm going to be pulling my hair out! I havent had enough time to get over Josh Smith!

[JTB]

Based off this article I'm not as happy about this pickup with Daye now...seems like he is a decent shooter yes but he doesn't fit the Spurs way AKA the Hawks way which is a ball movement offense:

Check out this article below...do we really need a bonehead? Cause that's what he is described as from his time in San Antonio earlier this season: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/1/18/7629735/spurs-waive-austin-daye-reportedly-set-to-promote-jamychal-green-from

ARTICLE:

The Spurs crossed the halfway point after Friday's dominating win over Portland, and their record stands at 25-16, exactly on pace for 50 wins. Rather than chart their progress and sort through all their team stats to see where they rank in the league and go through the drudgery of a player-by-player grading system that I feel would be rather pointless given all the injuries they've had, I think it'd be better to put off that stuff for now, let the whole group get a few games under their collective belts and cover some other Spurs topics instead.

Such as, say, did you hear they waived a guy?

It's true. Austin Daye is no longer a Spur. Man, you all hated Austin Daye. Media colleagues of mine weren't shy about expressing their disgust with him in private conversation. Fans wrote me irate emails about him, as though I was R.C. Buford. Even mild-mannered JRW, who hardly ever has an unkind word to say about anybody, would rage about poor Daye. An anonymous scout even fired shots at him, telling Mike Monroe of the San Antonio-Express News that "he's soft, physically and mentally."

Daye was the one guy on the roster who seemed a poor fit for the Spurs, from a toughness standpoint. In terms of tongue-lashings-per-minute from Pop, he was probably the team leader, even ahead of Danny Green and Marco Belinelli. The kiss of death, officially, came Friday night, when he was inactive rather than rookie Kyle Anderson, with the Spurs having 14 healthy bodies for once and only allowed to dress 13.

It's hard to argue that Daye didn't deserve being essentially "fired" from the Spurs. His primary role was to be a shooter and he had the worst field goal percentage on the club at .351 (and only .339 from downtown), even worse than Anderson's .358. And Anderson started like 1-for-27 or something. Daye, a supposed offensive specialist, had the worst offensive rating on the team at 98.0. Anderson, the next-closest Spur, checks in a 102.2. Defensively, his rating of 101.1 ranked tenth on the club, and the five guys below him are probably the five you'd guess. (They were certainly the five I guessed, but I'm much smarter about basketball than you are.)

Daye was just above Anderson in net rating (-3.1) and dead last on the team in PER (7.2, yuck), offensive win shares (-0.5), total win shares (-0.1), win shares per 48 minutes (-0.023), offensive box plus/minus (-4.9), total box plus/minus (-6.1), and value over replacement player (-0.5), all according to basketball-reference.com.

His biggest sin, however, was probably ranking last on the team in assists at 0.3 per game, even though he was getting more minutes than Jeff Ayres. In his second-to-last outing as a Spur, at Washington, he took the same number of shots (6) as the passes he made, in 7:12 of playing time, the kind of rate that would make Kobe Bryant blush. Daye was just a tick below Patty Mills when it came to field goal attempts per 36 minutes, averaging 15.3 attempts to Mills' team-leading 15.4. His usage rate of 22.5 percent was fifth on the team, below only "the Big Four."

You can get away with a lot of things as a Spur. You can be a poor defender or a poor rebounder, a poor interview (encouraged, actually) or even a poor dresser, but the one thing you absolutely cannot do while playing for Pop is refuse to make the next pass, turning a so-so look into a good one and a good one into a great one. Daye was too chuckeriffic with the ball and not nearly accurate enough or skillful in other areas to compensate for that. He was a one-trick pony that wasn't even at all good with that one trick, and now he's gone, a gamble that didn't pay off for the Spurs any more than it did for Memphis, Detroit or Toronto before them. Daye probably needs to go overseas to make something of his basketballing career.

Of all the stats that made him look terrible, the one that intrigued me the most was VORP, because indeed it does appear as the Spurs are literally going to sign a replacement player to fill Daye's spot in the person of JaMychal Green from their D-League affiliate in Austin, per Woj.

[update: They signed Green to a 10-day contract.]

Green was the star of the team's summer league team in Las Vegas and showed promise in the preseason as well, making 11-of-15 shots and hitting 10-of-14 free throws in 51 minutes of playing time stretching over six games. He also collected 16 rebounds, two assists, three steals, two blocks, three turnovers and five fouls in that time.

Dude's been putting up video game numbers in the D-League, leading Austin with 23,0 points (on .585 shooting) and 10.5 rebounds and adding 2.4 assists, 1.6 blocks and 1.1 steals per game, with a ridiculous 27.2 PER. A 24-year-old who was first-team SEC at Alabama as a senior, Green is a bit undersized to play the four in the NBA at 6'8" and 235 pounds, but he showed a knack for going after offensive boards in the preseason, had a decent stroke from mid-range and the bounce to know what to do with the business end of an alley-oop. I remember being particularly impressed with his passing, he knew enough about the Spurs system to get it to the corner when defenders converged on him. Defensively I was far less impressed. He was foul prone and lost on the pick-and-roll.

The Spurs will reportedly sign Green to a 10-day contract and who knows if he'll play at all or if he'll just be the guy wearing a suit. They could just be keeping that 15th roster spot warm, waiting for some vet to fill it via a trade or signing. Ray Allen is still out there, you know, as stomach-turning as that sounds. Green's skills seem to overlap with Ayres' so you wonder about the fit, and my guess is that if he ever wants to stick long-term with the Spurs, he'll have to develop a reliable corner three in a hurry because in the NBA he's more of a three than a four, despite his skill-set. He's made 3-of-10 from downtown this season with Austin. Jesus has Green's D-League shot chart in his superb-as-always write-up..

Anyway, godspeed Austin Daye and welcome aboard JaMychal Green. For many Spurs fans this move should've been made months ago.

Been trying to figure out what Daye can give the hawks as a player all afternoon and the article above may be misleading...seems like but I finally found my answer by going to the Spurs forum:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229446&page=15&highlight=Austin+Daye

Apparently Daye was doing well as far as coming off the bench and playing his role, he just seem to have his ups and downs like any young player but from page 11 and so on, Spurs fans seem to really like this kid. He should be just fine replacing Scott for this next month until the playoffs.

I hope Daye does well cause like many Spurs fans called it in another thread I read this may be Dayes last shot to prove that he can atleast be a end of the bench guy on an NBA team plus I really like the kids size and if anything his size can maybe give our opponents some trouble defensively

[Guest]

Nice size and stroke.

That's what she said

(Sometimes I think I'm too old to use that line ...but it just pops in my head)

[NBASupes]

It seems like Daye when he loses confidence, he becomes useless. I seen players like that but not recently.

[JTB]

It seems like Daye when he loses confidence, he becomes useless. I seen players like that but not recently.

That's what im thinking too but maybe bud can fix that after all he shows tons of confidence in Pero and Daye can't be any worse than him...offensively anyways

[BraveSeminole]

Broken toe

 

Thanks for the information!  Is there a good chance that he will be able to return before the playoffs begin?

[Peoriabird]

I must have missed something too!  How is Daye a replacement for Mike Scott?  Don't they play different positions?  Daye isn't a power forward is he?  I can buy that he is a replacement for Thabo but Scott?  We need big men that can score inside not more jump shooters!

[NBASupes]

That's what im thinking too but maybe bud can fix that after all he shows tons of confidence in Pero and Daye can't be any worse than him...offensively anyways

Shouldn't be but Pero's defense and off the ball movement and screens is what gets him minutes. Daye has to contribute in other ways to prove his worth

[ATLHawks3]

I must have missed something too!  How is Daye a replacement for Mike Scott?  Don't they play different positions?  Daye isn't a power forward is he?  I can buy that he is a replacement for Thabo but Scott?  We need big men that can score inside not more jump shooters!

 

He's going to replace the offense Mike Scott gives us while he's healing his broken toe. Thabo should be back within a week or so.

[JTB]

Shouldn't be but Pero's defense and off the ball movement and screens is what gets him minutes. Daye has to contribute in other ways to prove his worth

Oh I def agree on the comments on Pero!...most don't see the good he brings.

[Spursfanpeacemaker]

I know Austin Daye very well, hes a former spur. I watched his game plenty of times.

 

He's been traded by pistons, raptors, and spurs.

 

He's really long but all he do is shoot 3 pointers thats why Spurs got rid of him..., His game style is almost similar as Pero, camp behind three point line and shoot.. he's more consistent making them compared to Pero Brick shots.

 

Not a bad pickup, but i prefer Pero because Daye is really skinny like toothpick. Pero has a statue body, really useful for setting screens than Daye's toothpick body. 

Edited March 14, 2015 by Spursfanpeacemaker

[Plainview1981]

It's not like there are a ton of options out there. He is probably the best option available at this point.

Edited March 14, 2015 by Hotlanta1981

[WillyMo]

Sometimes I think you guys are nuts..Daye has been nothing but trash since the came in the league 

[JTB]

It's not like there are a ton of options out there. He is probably the best option available at this point.

Rashard Lewis?....Al Harrington?

Edited March 15, 2015 by JTB