Yes! The Stretch 5 I want is Available!!

[LastDon]

Andrea Bargnani is a clear upgrade over Muscala with more size girth range and offensive versatility.. I would definitely take a look for peanuts.. The guy would be a more effective version of Pero offensively..

[sturt]

Could be on to something here.

[pimp]

We already have a stretch 5 starting...
We don't need anymore soft, jump shooting big men.  We have enough of that with  Al , Moose , and Mike Scott .
We need guys that can defensive rebound and defend the rim.
 

Edited February 21, 2016 by pimp

[GameTime]

Don't be surprised if Bud picks up a D-League big. We haven't even been rumored to be on the list of any of these buyout players thus far.

[swolehawk2]

9 minutes ago, pimp said:

We already have a stretch 5 starting...
We don't need anymore soft, jump shooting big men.  We have enough of that with  Al , Moose , and Mike Scott .
We need guys that can defensive rebound and defend the rim.
 

Chisel this sh*t in stone.

[Guest]

Tired of stretch 5's...lets get some big fat guy to plug in the middle. Where's Reggie Evans these days?

[Buzzard]

I'd rather have David Lee. He is nothing more than a bench player now; but even with less than 20 mpg can still grab 5 boards a game.

Edited February 21, 2016 by Buzzard

[Admin]

Is this real? Someone did let really suggest using a roster spot on that waste of skin right?

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[GameTime]

1 hour ago, Spud2Nique said:

Tired of stretch 5's...lets get some big fat guy to plug in the middle. Where's Reggie Evans these days?

Lee is a Dallas Maverick

[sturt]

Not sure I'm excited by the notion of Bargnani, but what I meant earlier is that he seems a fit with what Budcox wants to emphasize, and particularly so given his comments on Thursday that lead naturally to the thought that whoever fills that 15th slot, they're going to be seen as an offensive boost.

Looking at the d-league big men available, I'd put Earl Clark at the top of the list--again, not that I favor him necessarily, but just given the skill set it's natural to think Budcox would be looking for.

 

[LastDon]

5 minutes ago, sturt said:

Not sure I'm excited by the notion of Bargnani, but what I meant earlier is that he seems a fit with what Budcox wants to emphasize, and particularly so given his comments on Thursday that lead naturally to the thought that whoever fills that 15th slot, they're going to be seen as an offensive boost.

Looking at the d-league big men available, I'd put Earl Clark at the top of the list--again, not that I favor him necessarily, but just given the skill set it's natural to think Budcox would be looking for.

 

Bargnani averaged 20 ppg for a season and had 18 in a game this month when given minutes.. Earl Clark game is garbage  and he is an undersized tweener..Bargnani is an upgrade over Mike Scott and Muscala..All 3 players games are similar but 7'0 245 trumps 6'11 190 and that lil 6'8 from Mike Scott..

[sturt]

Clark isn't 190 anymore. He's filled out quite a bit over time. I'm going to guess 220.

The knock on Bargnani, of course, is his incredibly stiff defense and for his size he has some of the lousiest REB numbers I've seen. But again... if offense is where Budcox wants to improve, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take interest in him.

[LastDon]

5 hours ago, pimp said:

We already have a stretch 5 starting...
We don't need anymore soft, jump shooting big men.  We have enough of that with  Al , Moose , and Mike Scott .
We need guys that can defensive rebound and defend the rim.
 

We got a guy 7'3 in Taveres who has proven that he isn't a stiff..If bud wanted a bruiser in the rotation he should look no further than Edy..Edy is better than Asik right now! and some of u guys were jus cumin to acquire Asik! We could have got Dwight.. Bud system isn't designed for that type of player..The offense is predicated on spacing and Ball movement.. Bargnani would flourish with the Hawks..

Edited February 21, 2016 by LastDon

[LastDon]

3 minutes ago, sturt said:

Clark isn't 190 anymore. He's filled out quite a bit over time. I'm going to guess 220.

The knock on Bargnani, of course, is his incredibly stiff defense and for his size he has some of the lousiest REB numbers I've seen. But again... if offense is where Budcox wants to improve, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take interest in him.

The 190 is my exaggerated Muscala weight..

[pimp]

Bargnani is the worse rebounding big in the NBA, and he's a terrible defender . He could'nt even in maintain decent playing time on a bad Nets team.
ALL he does is add to our.existing problems .
ranked #59 out of 59 centers..

Hollinger Stats - Defensive Rebound Rate - Qualified Centers
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
51	Al Horford, ATL	56	31.7	.564	17.3	7.3	19.7	6.8	16.9	11.9	19.77	242.8	8.1
52	Frank Kaminsky III, CHA	53	21.5	.501	13.8	8.7	16.5	4.2	16.7	10.3	11.94	22.8	0.8
53	Steven Adams, OKC	53	25.0	.612	9.0	13.2	11.2	11.4	16.2	13.9	14.21	71.3	2.4
	Roy Hibbert, LAL	55	24.3	.512	15.9	12.2	12.9	7.2	16.2	11.6	11.86	25.1	0.8
55	Kevin Seraphin, NY	35	10.4	.425	16.5	15.7	22.4	7.7	15.7	11.7	10.30	-1.6	-0.1
56	Robin Lopez, NY	56	25.6	.565	12.3	13.6	16.3	12.3	15.3	13.8	16.30	122.2	4.1
57	Tiago Splitter, ATL	36	16.1	.571	13.0	10.4	14.3	8.7	14.2	11.5	14.00	29.4	1.0
58	Boris Diaw, SA	55	18.8	.580	25.9	13.0	16.8	5.3	14.0	9.9	14.60	61.7	2.1
59	Andrea Bargnani, BKN	46	13.8	.500	5.2	7.5	21.5	4.9	12.4	8.6	12.23	15.4	0.5

 

Hollinger Stats - Rebound Rate - Qualified Centers
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
51	Al Horford, ATL	56	31.7	.564	17.3	7.3	19.7	6.8	16.9	11.9	19.77	242.8	8.1
52	Kevin Seraphin, NY	35	10.4	.425	16.5	15.7	22.4	7.7	15.7	11.7	10.30	-1.6	-0.1
	Marc Gasol, MEM	52	34.4	.528	17.4	10.5	22.9	3.7	20.0	11.7	17.93	195.8	6.5
54	Roy Hibbert, LAL	55	24.3	.512	15.9	12.2	12.9	7.2	16.2	11.6	11.86	25.1	0.8
55	Tiago Splitter, ATL	36	16.1	.571	13.0	10.4	14.3	8.7	14.2	11.5	14.00	29.4	1.0
56	Kelly Olynyk, BOS	54	20.3	.562	13.2	9.9	20.4	5.7	16.9	11.2	16.95	103.8	3.5
57	Frank Kaminsky III, CHA	53	21.5	.501	13.8	8.7	16.5	4.2	16.7	10.3	11.94	22.8	0.8
58	Boris Diaw, SA	55	18.8	.580	25.9	13.0	16.8	5.3	14.0	9.9	14.60	61.7	2.1
59	Andrea Bargnani, BKN	46	13.8	.500	5.2	7.5	21.5	4.9	12.4	8.6	12.23	15.4	0.5

 

Edited February 21, 2016 by pimp

[LastDon]

22 minutes ago, pimp said:

Bargnani is the worse rebounding big in the NBA, and he's a terrible defender . He could'nt even in maintain decent playing time on a bad Nets team.
ALL he does is add to our.existing problems .
ranked #59 out of 59 centers..

Hollinger Stats - Defensive Rebound Rate - Qualified Centers
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
51	Al Horford, ATL	56	31.7	.564	17.3	7.3	19.7	6.8	16.9	11.9	19.77	242.8	8.1
52	Frank Kaminsky III, CHA	53	21.5	.501	13.8	8.7	16.5	4.2	16.7	10.3	11.94	22.8	0.8
53	Steven Adams, OKC	53	25.0	.612	9.0	13.2	11.2	11.4	16.2	13.9	14.21	71.3	2.4
	Roy Hibbert, LAL	55	24.3	.512	15.9	12.2	12.9	7.2	16.2	11.6	11.86	25.1	0.8
55	Kevin Seraphin, NY	35	10.4	.425	16.5	15.7	22.4	7.7	15.7	11.7	10.30	-1.6	-0.1
56	Robin Lopez, NY	56	25.6	.565	12.3	13.6	16.3	12.3	15.3	13.8	16.30	122.2	4.1
57	Tiago Splitter, ATL	36	16.1	.571	13.0	10.4	14.3	8.7	14.2	11.5	14.00	29.4	1.0
58	Boris Diaw, SA	55	18.8	.580	25.9	13.0	16.8	5.3	14.0	9.9	14.60	61.7	2.1
59	Andrea Bargnani, BKN	46	13.8	.500	5.2	7.5	21.5	4.9	12.4	8.6	12.23	15.4	0.5

 

Hollinger Stats - Rebound Rate - Qualified Centers
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
51	Al Horford, ATL	56	31.7	.564	17.3	7.3	19.7	6.8	16.9	11.9	19.77	242.8	8.1
52	Kevin Seraphin, NY	35	10.4	.425	16.5	15.7	22.4	7.7	15.7	11.7	10.30	-1.6	-0.1
	Marc Gasol, MEM	52	34.4	.528	17.4	10.5	22.9	3.7	20.0	11.7	17.93	195.8	6.5
54	Roy Hibbert, LAL	55	24.3	.512	15.9	12.2	12.9	7.2	16.2	11.6	11.86	25.1	0.8
55	Tiago Splitter, ATL	36	16.1	.571	13.0	10.4	14.3	8.7	14.2	11.5	14.00	29.4	1.0
56	Kelly Olynyk, BOS	54	20.3	.562	13.2	9.9	20.4	5.7	16.9	11.2	16.95	103.8	3.5
57	Frank Kaminsky III, CHA	53	21.5	.501	13.8	8.7	16.5	4.2	16.7	10.3	11.94	22.8	0.8
58	Boris Diaw, SA	55	18.8	.580	25.9	13.0	16.8	5.3	14.0	9.9	14.60	61.7	2.1
59	Andrea Bargnani, BKN	46	13.8	.500	5.2	7.5	21.5	4.9	12.4	8.6	12.23	15.4	0.5

 

A stretch 5 will always have lower rebounding numbers due to limited offensive rebounding opportunities.. But the benefit from this type of player comes  in have the big back quicker to stop transition as well as the additional spacing on O.. At the end of the day u can't teach 7 ft.. and this guy brings more to the table than Muscala and Scott..

[LastDon]

Another thing! I'm tired of going to war with unheralded 2nd round picks..Get me some acclaimed talent.. if bud is so great at coaching up scrubs.. why he can't get shit out of 1st round picks?!Get Bargnani and give him Scott and Muscala minutes immediately.. Bench Korver and start Thabo..The mitten would do well defending 2 teamers..

[pimp]

14 minutes ago, LastDon said:

A stretch 5 will always have lower rebounding numbers due to limited offensive rebounding opportunities.. But the benefit from this type of player comes  in have the big back quicker to stop transition as well as the additional spacing on O.. At the end of the day u can't teach 7 ft.. and this guy brings more to the table than Muscala and Scott..

He solves no problems for this team.  Our problem isn't spacing. Adding another guy to chuck 3s up is'nt going to make us better .We have gotten outrebounded in 22 of the last 23 games,. That's a problem that needs fixing.
You talk about what he does on offensive... you know he has to play defense too right? it would be like playing  4 on 5 out there. The guy is a bum . Period

Edited February 21, 2016 by pimp

[pimp]

16 minutes ago, LastDon said:

A stretch 5 will always have lower rebounding numbers due to limited offensive rebounding opportunities.. But the benefit from this type of player comes  in have the big back quicker to stop transition as well as the additional spacing on O.. At the end of the day u can't teach 7 ft.. and this guy brings more to the table than Muscala and Scott..

being a stretch 5 doedn't have anything to do with "defensive" rebounding ...which he sucks at

[Duff_Man]

13 hours ago, GameTime said:

Don't be surprised if Bud picks up a D-League big. We haven't even been rumored to be on the list of any of these buyout players thus far.

I'd say the last week shows what "rumors" are good for.