The Gutter

[Diesel]

On 1/18/2018 at 3:51 PM, AHF said:

And if you look at the history of the #3 pick, it is worse than the #1 but a #$*#& ton better than the #7 pick or #10 pick or whatever you want to do.  

It is simple.  You can find individual examples of MVPs taken later in the top 15 (like #15 Steve Nash) or who were the best players or finals MVPs on championship teams (like #10 PP or #13 Kobe Bryant) but the odds drop slot by slot and pick by pick as you move down.

I say... it's time for a #3 vs. #7 vs. #10  Smackdown Battle (last 20 years)

My guess, it's a wash.   Hell, Steph Curry was a #7 pick.   Paul George was a #10 pick.   Those picks can't be too bad... Off the top, it's hard to call a #3 pick ... OK.. James Harden and Bradley Beal and Melo and Christian Laettner.

 

[AHF]

For D's informal comparison - 1997-2017 ranking by career WS and WS/48.  2 points for being first, 1 point for being in the middle, 0 points if last.

#3 pick: 55

#7 pick: 37

#10 pick: 34

2017: Jayson Tatum, Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins

WS Rank:  3, 7, 10

WS/48 Rank:  Same

2016:  Jaylen Brown, Jamal Murray, Thon Maker

WS Rank:  3, 7, 10

WS/48 Rank: 3, 10, 7

2015: Jahlil Okafor, Justise Winslow, Emmanual Muddiay

WS Rank: 7, 3, 10

WS/48 Rank:  Same

2014:  Joel Embiid, Julius Randle, Elfrid Payton

WS Rank:  10, 7, 3

WS/48 Rank:  3, 7, 10

2013:  Otto Porter, Ben McLemore, CJ McCullum

WS Rank:  3, 10, 7

WS/48 Rank:  Same

2012:  Beal,, Barnes, River

WS Rank:  3, 7, 10

WS/48 Rank:  Same

2011:  Kanter, Biyombo, Fridette

Both Rankings:  3, 7, 10

2010:  Favors, Monroe, George

Both Rankings:  10, 7, 3

2009:  Harden, Curry, Jennings

WS:  3, 7, 10

WS/48:  3, 7, 10

2008:  Mayo, Gordon, Lopez

Both:  10, 7, 3

2007:  Horford, Brewer, Hawes

Both:  3, 10, 7

2006:  Morrison, Foye, Sene

Both:  7, 10, 3

2005:  Williams, Villanueva, Bynum

WS:  3, 10, 7

WS/48:  10, 3, 7

2004:  Gordon, Deng, Jackson

Both:  7, 3, 10

 2003:  Melo, Hinrich, Hayes

Both:  3, 7, 10

2002:  Dunleavy, Hilario, Butler

Both:  7, 3, 10

2001:  Gasol, Griffin, Joe

Both:  3, 10, 7

2000:  Miles, Mihm, Dooling

WS:  7, 10, 3

WS/48: 10, 7, 3

1999:  Davis, Rip, Terry

Both:  10, 3, 7

1998:  LaFrentz, Williams, PP

WS: 10, 3, 7

WS/48: 10, 3, 7

1997:  Billups, Thomas, Fortson

WS:  3, 7, 10

WS/48:  3, 10, 7

[TheFuzz]

I trust our scouting department but I really want Doncic or Bagley. Could get behind Porter as well. If we fall out of the top 5 it'll be a real test of Schlenk's meddle.

[StephenHawking]

vor 2 Stunden, TheFuzz sagte:

I trust our scouting department but I really want Doncic or Bagley. Could get behind Porter as well. If we fall out of the top 5 it'll be a real test of Schlenk's meddle.

See and that's the thing. I personally like Ayton the most followed by Doncic. 

There wasn't nor will there ever be a decision which we all are going to agree with. I think the best idea is to give whoever he picks enough time to develop before smashing Schlenk 

[AHF]

3 hours ago, StephenHawking said:

See and that's the thing. I personally like Ayton the most followed by Doncic. 

There wasn't nor will there ever be a decision which we all are going to agree with. I think the best idea is to give whoever he picks enough time to develop before smashing Schlenk 

And give Schlenk a high enough pick where he is still on the board.