2023-24 Hawks Roster and Season Previews

[Spud2nique]

59 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Anyone think there’s a chance MoG could ever develop into a SF? He’s a sneaky good passer, and I suspect Quin wants as many above average passers on the floor as possible. 

If Wemby does all that dribbling at center Mo G should be able to whatever he can to his ability. Why not? Get every advantage, height, wingspan, whatever. I’m down!

[JayBirdHawk]

Atlanta Hawks star Trae Young expects the group’s young players to make a significant impact this season. (via atlhawksfans): Reporter: “Jalen [Johnson], AJ [Griffin], Kobe [Bufkin], how excited are you about the young guys that are going to play a role?” Young: “I’m excited about seeing them play, they’re going to play a lot more minutes for us. We’re a young team again, and guys are going to have to step up and play a lot of minutes. But we can use that to our advantage: Play fast, play scrappy, rebound the offensive glass. There’s a lot of things we can do and use to our advantage by having Jalen, AJ, Kobe, young guys out there playing a lot of minutes for us.”

– via Paul Terrazzano Jr. @ TalkBasket

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Why the Hawks are in good shape after trading John Collins

Atlanta dealt John Collins to the Utah Jazz this offseason after years of trade speculation.

Shaun Powell

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October 21, 2023 10:13 AM

Hawks guard Trae Young once relied on John Collins, but Onyeka Okongwu will now have a bigger role on the team.

NBA basketball returns Oct. 24. We are counting down the days like the seconds on a shot clock — literally, that’s what we’re doing. As of Oct. 1, our writers will list 24 storylines heading into the 2023-24 NBA season.

A new storyline will drop each day. Here is No. 4:

The Hawks shipped big man John Collins this offseason. Here’s why they won’t regret that decision:

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Collins was a positive, affable and beloved presence in and around the Hawks during his six years in Atlanta. He was also a walking trade rumor the last three. Finally, the Hawks pulled the trigger last summer, sending him to Utah.

He’ll be missed … for the reasons mentioned above. As a player? Not so much. His production dropped every season since 2019-20 when he averaged 21 points and 10 rebounds at power forward and was clearly (then) a centerpiece. By last season, Collins (13 and six) was a secondary option playing less than 30 minutes whose 3-point shooting suffered (29%). It was time. His market value was fading.

The question is, do the Hawks have a young John Collins on the roster? The reflex answer is no, but it really depends on how much Onyeka Okongwu has developed. The No. 6 selection in 2020, “O” has seen his minutes and place in the rotation rise, and there are times when he flirts with a double-double — something Collins made a habit of doing at his peak as a Hawk.

There’s really no better power forward option on the roster at the moment. In fact, the Hawks at times operated smoother, at least offensively, last season when they went small. They will ostensibly get to see more of Jalen Johnson and AJ Griffin filling the available minutes from Collins’ departure.

The question for coach Quin Snyder: Can he have Okongwu and center Clint Capela on the floor together for long stretches? Neither brings shooting, therefore they can’t stretch the floor. Would Atlanta trade Capela and then slide Okongwu, who’s 6-foot-9, into the center spot?

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10 players seeking NBA All-Star return

8. Dejounte Murray, Atlanta Hawks

Murray’s first season with the Hawks was messy, but offseason trades and a full year under head coach Quin Snyder could straighten that up in a mostly muddled East.

Snyder has coached equal opportunity offense and multiple All-Stars before. Murray could be an immediate beneficiary of that.

• Most recent All-Star season: 2021-22
• Last season’s stats: 20.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 6.1 apg
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10. Trae Young, Atlanta Hawks

Both Dejounte Murray (left) and Trae Young come into the new season with solid chances to return to the All-Star Game.

Young’s fortunes carry the same optimistic forecast as Murray’s, with the added benefit that Young only recently turned 25 years old. His stats have never been the question. A respectable wins total — and improved 3-point shooting — could vault him back to no-brainer status.

• Most recent All-Star season: 2021-22
• Last season’s stats: 26.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 10.2 apg

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Top 8 rotation players in double digit scoring.

 

 

[AHF]

50 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Top 8 rotation players in double digit scoring.

 

 

Love seeing this balance.

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We started here:

PG: Trae Young, Patty Mills, Kobe Bufkin, 
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Wesley Matthews
PF: Jalen Johnson, Saddiq Bey, Mouhammed Gueye
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu, Bruno Fernando

 

Now we are here:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Wesley Matthews
PF: Saddiq Bey
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu

injured until January: Kobe, Gueye, JJ

On the struggle bus: AJ

Riding the pine: Patty, Bruno, Mathews

What's our next move?

[theheroatl]

9 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

We started here:

PG: Trae Young, Patty Mills, Kobe Bufkin, 
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Wesley Matthews
PF: Jalen Johnson, Saddiq Bey, Mouhammed Gueye
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu, Bruno Fernando

 

Now we are here:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Wesley Matthews
PF: Saddiq Bey
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu

injured until January: Kobe, Gueye, JJ

On the struggle bus: AJ

Riding the pine: Patty, Bruno, Mathews

What's our next move?

Our next move is swapping offense for defense. We still remain near the top for offense yet again.

We ignore our defensive problems. We need defensive stud players. It's clear as day.

[theheroatl]

Aight y’all which one of you clowns was this….

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

On 9/20/2023 at 4:35 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

Forward

Jalen Johnson

Mouhamed Gueye

Center

Clint Capela

Onyeka Okongwu

Bruno Fernando

 

On 9/21/2023 at 9:59 AM, macdaddy said:

Looking at it this way is a little alarming.  Pretty sure this was not Landry's plan in June.  One player in the frontcourt who's played  more than 200 nba games. 

The ModDaddy called it. @macdaddy

[NBASupes]

On 11/29/2023 at 7:13 AM, theheroatl said:

Our next move is swapping offense for defense. We still remain near the top for offense yet again.

We ignore our defensive problems. We need defensive stud players. It's clear as day.

Defensive stud players aren't really available like that. 

[JayBirdHawk]

On 11/28/2023 at 10:22 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

We started here:

PG: Trae Young, Patty Mills, Kobe Bufkin, 
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Wesley Matthews
PF: Jalen Johnson, Saddiq Bey, Mouhammed Gueye
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu, Bruno Fernando

 

Now we are here:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Wesley Matthews
PF: Saddiq Bey
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu

injured until January: Kobe, Gueye, JJ

On the struggle bus: AJ

Riding the pine: Patty, Bruno, Mathews

What's our next move?

Two weeks later we are now in even worse shape:

We started here:

PG: Trae Young, Patty Mills, Kobe Bufkin, 
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, AJ Griffin, Wesley Matthews
PF: Jalen Johnson, Saddiq Bey, Mouhammed Gueye
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu, Bruno Fernando

 

Now we are here:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Dejounte Murray, Bogdan Bogdanovich
SF: Mat(t)hews
PF: Saddiq Bey
C - Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu

injured until January: Kobe, Gueye, JJ

On the struggle bus and now out: AJ

Riding the pine: Patty, Bruno, Lundy

 

What's our next move?

And it' can't be "Let's wait until JJ returns." 

[JayBirdHawk]

On 9/19/2023 at 3:56 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

The new front-office regime of Landry Fields and Kyle Korver apparently plans to use the upcoming season as a wait-and-see regarding major changes, if any. Which means, for the most part, the Hawks are content to run it back with a club that underachieved last season, putting yet more distance between the Hawks and their 2021 Eastern Conference Finals appearance.

 

 

Spoiler

Think I might talk in all gifs today   

 

[macdaddy]

If you're going to "run it back" you actually have to keep all the players.  

[JayBirdHawk]

8 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

If you're going to "run it back" you actually have to keep all the players.  

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They just have a fatal flaw - they don’t have enough size in the wing rotation Fully healthy they maybe have barely enough.