Premium Member Diesel Posted December 13, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 This deal fails because it can only happen after Dec. 15th. The question is would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 13, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 I would evaluate this trade as: "Do I prefer Hunter or Hachimura?" I haven't watched Rui this year so I'm not going to opine on that but from what I saw in prior years I would have to be persuaded that this would be an upgrade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted December 13, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, AHF said: I would evaluate this trade as: "Do I prefer Hunter or Hachimura?" I haven't watched Rui this year so I'm not going to opine on that but from what I saw in prior years I would have to be persuaded that this would be an upgrade. And isn't Hachimura more PF than SF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 13, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Rui also makes only slightly less than Hunter. I don't think i'm doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 13, 2023 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Rui, I would say is the modern day PF. He doesn't rebound well because he hasn't really been in that position to rebound (offensively) but he does shoot from outside pretty good. His size and motor are good. He's a rotational player. I think he's more Physical than Hunter... but Hunter can be better in spurts. I see Rui as a rotational player who can play good minutes at the 4. I think the other part of the trade was ignored. Gabe Vincent. He's not a bad player. Again, another rotational player, but somebody I trust to go out and hold up the offense but mainly bring some defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted December 13, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: Rui also makes only slightly less than Hunter. I don't think i'm doing that. I think the addition of Gabe Vincent, if he's still anything like his Heat days might be interesting though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 13, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: I think the addition of Gabe Vincent, if he's still anything like his Heat days might be interesting though. Not interesting enough that I would take a worse player or worse fit. He doesn't move the needle enough for me to care about that piece. I'm only doing it if I think Rui is an upgrade for this team. Vincent is a career sub 40% shooter (33% from 3) so isn't my ideal backup but good enough defensively that it would be a nice luxury for minutes behind Trae and DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL_BRYANT Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/13/2023 at 7:51 AM, Diesel said: This deal fails because it can only happen after Dec. 15th. The question is would you do it? Why would the Lakers do this??? The Lakers couldn't care less about the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Lakers would never do this dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 14, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, FL_BRYANT said: Why would the Lakers do this??? The Lakers couldn't care less about the Hawks. 46 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Lakers would never do this dude They would do it if they like Hunter better than Rui for their team. It essentially lets them upgrade from Taurean Prince as their starting SF to DeAndre Hunter. For whatever his faults, that is an obvious and significant upgrade. (Heck, Hunter is even an upgrade on Prince as a rebounder!) Rui is a very nice backup to LeBron. I think Vincent is more valuable to the Lakers as a backup combo guard than he would be here so him being in the deal doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But the idea that the Lakers might prefer Hunter to Rui is pretty realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted December 14, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, AHF said: They would do it if they like Hunter better than Rui for their team. It essentially lets them upgrade from Taurean Prince as their starting SF to DeAndre Hunter. For whatever his faults, that is an obvious and significant upgrade. (Heck, Hunter is even an upgrade on Prince as a rebounder!) Rui is a very nice backup to LeBron. I think Vincent is more valuable to the Lakers as a backup combo guard than he would be here so him being in the deal doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But the idea that the Lakers might prefer Hunter to Rui is pretty realistic. Somehow the Lakers end up with Cam and Hunter? That would be some comedy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 14, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: Somehow the Lakers end up with Cam and Hunter? That would be some comedy. I don't think the deal works for either team but that would be funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 14, 2023 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, FL_BRYANT said: Why would the Lakers do this??? The Lakers couldn't care less about the Hawks. Lakers need some three point shooting help. They won't be able to match up with Phoenix as is. Having Mills and Hunter off the bench will help. Plus, they get out of two three year contracts of players that they have no more use for. Lastly, Lebron has become the Atlanta Hawks Wing whisperer. He knows how to get the best out of former Atlanta Hawks wings. He can reach Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 14, 2023 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, AHF said: They would do it if they like Hunter better than Rui for their team. It essentially lets them upgrade from Taurean Prince as their starting SF to DeAndre Hunter. For whatever his faults, that is an obvious and significant upgrade. (Heck, Hunter is even an upgrade on Prince as a rebounder!) Rui is a very nice backup to LeBron. I think Vincent is more valuable to the Lakers as a backup combo guard than he would be here so him being in the deal doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But the idea that the Lakers might prefer Hunter to Rui is pretty realistic. What you say is true... but the reason I looked is because it seems that the Lakers have found that they don't need Gabe as much. Patty Mills is that off the bench gunner that will help them win playoff series. Reports are that Gabe is shaky as an off the bench gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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