KB21 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 We would have to be one of the seven worst teams in the league to even have a shot at the 4th pick. If Atlanta comes close to the playoffs but misses out, they have no mathematical shot at getting the 4th pick. They have limited chances of landing in the top three, but I think the chances are much greater that if they do miss the playoffs, the pick will be in the 10-13 range. I would give that up for Joe Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 5, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 For a shot at JJ, you wouldn't have given up a top 3 protected pick in this draft?? Now.. even with the #4 pick. The #4 pick was Chris Paul who most of you didn't like. Let's add this. 2007 draft is bound to be much weaker than this one... JJ has the potential to be as good as TMac or better than Ray Allen. It's definitely a bad thing to think that we won't progress from now to 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSD Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 You are a sucker if you really think this battle is about our compensation in the trade. I've got a great deal on some beach property to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 5, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 What about the possibilty of lessening the restrictions on the pick in 2006 for more stringent restrictions in 2007/8? 2006 - top 10 protected 2007 - top 7 protected 2008 - top 3 protected I wonder if the Suns would agree to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Dolfan, other than Greg Oden, who are these "can't miss prospects"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 5, 2005 Moderators Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 The reason I think it is a bad deal is that the 2007 draft is supposed to me much stronger at the top (Oden, Mayo, etc.) than this year's draft and because even teams like the Bulls that added like 5 lottery picks to their roster continued to lose a few years after they had enough talent on paper to make the draft. The Hawks certainly have lost over the last 5 years with good looking talent on paper and failing to protect those lottery picks was the biggest part of that. Who wouldn't be thrilled with a lineup right now of: Quentin Richardson (Lorenzen Wright pick #1) Amare Stoudemire (Lorenzen Wright pick #2) TJ Ford (or Kirk Hinrick who would have gone at the Hawks' pick if the Hawks had stayed at their #7 spot) The costs from failing to protect a pick when success is uncertain are huge. More fundamentally, I think Phoenix does this deal with less protection on the Hawks' own pick in 2007. I'm telling you I would do the deal but if the deal went through like this on Tuesday I would have been critical of the failure to provide more protection to our pick in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 There will be some high upside players available. Outside of Oden, you have Brandan Wright, Kevin Durant, Darrell Arthur, and Thaddeus Young. The thing is, Wright, Durant, and young are swingmen. With Marvin and Josh around, I think most would pass on another high upside swingman if it means getting the long, athletic point guard the team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 5, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 We also don't know just yet how many of those guys will leave school their first year. It's going to be a deep draft compared to next year's, so some players may decide to wait one more year. Having to play a year in college may expose flaws in some of these young guys' games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spid3167 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 MrHonline Quote: IMO, it has nothing to do with the picks... Exactly... There are definately other, probably self serving motives from Belkin but the picks are a rouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Quote: For a shot at JJ, you wouldn't have given up a top 3 protected pick in this draft?? Now.. even with the #4 pick. The #4 pick was Chris Paul who most of you didn't like. Let's add this. 2007 draft is bound to be much weaker than this one... JJ has the potential to be as good as TMac or better than Ray Allen. It's definitely a bad thing to think that we won't progress from now to 2007. I don't believe he does. There is no Steve Nash and Amare Stoudmire in Atlanta to take the pressure off of him. I'd say 18PPG 5RPG 5APG 42%fg 34%3pt is likely the numbers he will put up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurider05 Posted August 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 Take the pressure off. I think that he took the pressure off of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 I dont believe if JJ does come here it will do much to the Suns. His shooting role can be replaced by Jim Jackson and Bell... Both shot over 40% in 3's last year aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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