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Hmmm I am really on the fence with this one. Pros to drafting saric: -a great pick!..mock drafts have him 7-14! -could stash over seas and give our selves a chance to sign a max player (but is that likely even with given the chance?) Cons drafting saric: -we need immediate help now (but then again maybe not) -we will have to wait on him for 1-2 years (which can be good and bad really) -we may miss out on Kyle Anderson, Rodney Hood, James Young if they fall to us. Conclusion: I'm just going to have to trust ferry and bud on this one. I mean if they bring over bebe for the next upcoming season than I'm ok cause they really are bringing back the players we draft and stash over seas, if they don't then I'm worried. I don't know! It's not a bad pick but if he's not on the hawks roster after year 1 and the hawks have another struggling season...hawk fans will be calling for his head. They need to get him over here to the U.S. after next season and it won't seem so bad.

Let me ask you guys this without starting a new thread. -Since Lou didn't get to work with coach bud last off season in training camp do you think that's a reason he wasn't really fitting in buds scheme? -If Lou is kept does he have the BBIQ to learn buds scheme? -If Lou learns buds scheme can he be our patty mills like player?

You are right but doesn't Teagues strong play at the end of the year automatically gives him another chance under coach bud? Then again I wonder how ferry and bud feel because Teague did play terrible the majority of the year then turned it way up in the final month including the playoffs....that's hard! It really is!...as a gm I'm not sure what I would do because at 25 Teague could very well play next season at a high level or he could be awful again. Sometimes I still feel we don't really know what we have in Teague that's why there's so much argument. His inconsistent play has split the board. It's very easy to watch Teague 5 straight games go off and you're like "damn this kid is the future or our next all star" then the next 5 games watch Teague f it up and say "shit! This guy gotta go!"....

Lmao!...and Im over here trying to go back to page one to see who created this Teague hater post? And it was my ass! Lol Man I was pissed at Teague but his end season and playoff performance made me want to hold on to him to see if he can do it a whole season.

Just not Lou's style of offense. Just not a fit in buds system. Doesn't mean he's done, just should be done as a hawk that's all.

First off my point as well. Supe could very be telling the truth. To me it's not that impressive that we are in Melos top 5, if true it's nice and all but the chances are still very slim until we are his first and second choice. 2nd you were threaten?!!! WTF?!!! That's crazy I don't expect that from hawksquawk even if you were lying about your sources. Not cool man. I'm sure it wasn't a everyday poster.

I dont get all the fuss....so what we may be in Melos top 5, it means nothing unless we are Melos top 2 choices which we aren't. Even as a top 5 team there's a 99 percent chance he doesn't come here. Let the 1 percent dreamers dream...it's not bad for this forum to have some unbelievable hope (though most of us know it's not happening...but let the board dream dammit) lol

Im a optimistic person so I will say that very well could be Melos top five with our very own hawks listed. What's not to believe I mean cp3 mentioned Atlanta as a possible destination before the doc rivers trade and ferry actually met with d Howard last off season. I'm not shocked we are on melos top 5. It doesn't really mean anything until his top 3 choices can't get it done to get him. Being 4 or 5 on the list shouldn't be some outstanding unbelievable thing.

I refuse to pay for ajc...so can you fill me in with what Schultz said?

I came across an interesting post from someone on ajc: "PeachtreeBart (5 hours ago) Why is Atlanta so often not considered a big market city, even by local writers? It's the 9th biggest TV market in the country out of 30 other cities in the NFL and 28 other cities in the NBA. Houston and Miami are big market but Atlanta is not? (The populations of the #5 - #10 metro areas are very similar in size). Call it like it is: the fan base, with its tepid enthusiasm for the Hawks, may not seem big market, but the actual metropolis is. - See more at: http://jeffschultz.blog.ajc.com/2014/06/24/lebron-carmelo-opt-out-hawks-an-option/#sthash.Sr5zTdD2.dpuf" Assuming he's on point with what he/she wrote how is Atlanta not a large market city in the nba? I know we discussed this time and time again but I really don't understand how Atlanta isn't considered large or close to large market. Even San Antonio is considered a small market and when you look up the San Antonio area you will find out that its a city that is 3rd largest in Texas with very close numbers in population as other bigger name cities in Texas....how exactly are they a small market?

I give ferry props for trying...(not being sarcastic) but this has no chance of happening.

Co sign...because if they want to have a quality team around them, they can't accept 20mil offers each and actually team up. If I was them I would go ahead and take 15m each, get an outstanding TEAM around the both of us and rule the nba for 4-7 years. These guys have plenty left in the tank to be a dominant force they just need to be reasonable about taking a paycut.

To add to that Lebrons ability to be a point forward is like having a diaw since bron can play both SF and PF...he will fit right into coach buds system. Melo would have to get a lot better and use his brain. He will need to learn to keep the ball moving and to keep moving without the ball at all times....I assume melo would be used as the ginobli type but will have the ability to post up when needed. If this were to happen which it won't....believe me ferry and bud will figure out how to use them.

See that's that bullsh*t I be talking about with these superstars. You aren't going to make all the money and have an overall dominating team! You would think lebron has learned this after the spurs spanked his teams ass in really all 5 games. If melo and lebron really want to leave their mark on the nba for everybody to remember they will both take 16m contracts from whatever franchise and only eat up 32m of the cap! Then gms can go out and put very good quality role players around them with the extra cap. Eating up all the cap space for 2 stars is just dumb! If you really want to win and make your mark on the league you have to take a paycut in today's nba.

I hate to bust bubbles but I think it's obvious that melo and lebron are going to go to the same team and be a big two with good role players around them and leave wade, bosh, and the Knicks in the dirt.

Reaching huh?...maybe so...you are right Parker is more of a point guard than Teague no arguing there but there's still a huge difference between Parker vs guys like cp3, Nash, Stockton (true point guards) no doubt about it. How I view true point guards vs tony Parker: True point guards main natural instincts is to pass first. There's no arguing there! Cp3, Nash, Stockton every time down the court they are looking to set up their team and pass the ball before doing anything else. Tony Parker is a lot different. Parker's main instinct is to take what the defense gives him. That's not to say cp3, Nash, Stockton, or other true point guards forced the pass, I'm just saying that there's a reason tony Parker usually avg. around 6/7 assist vs these true point guards that avg 10-13 assist per game. The spurs system allows Parker to be a true pint guard and a shoot first point guard and Parker knows how to handle the responsibility when it comes to taking that good open shot or passing to the open man or coming off a screen for back door passes or an off the screen mid range jumper, etc....while those guys are busy fancy passing Parker is doing it all on the court. Now we don't know what Dennis is but I rather he not be under the label true point guard if he's going to stay a hawk.

Reaching huh?...maybe so...you are right Parker is more of a point guard than Teague no arguing there but there's still a huge difference between Parker vs guys like cp3, Nash, Stockton (true point guards) no doubt about it. How I view true point guards vs tony Parker: True point guards main natural instincts is to pass first. There's no arguing there! Cp3, Nash, Stockton every time down the court they are looking to set up their team and pass the ball before doing anything else. Tony Parker is a lot different. Parker's main instinct is to take what the defense gives him. That's not to say cp3, Nash, Stockton, or other true point guards forced the pass, I'm just saying that there's a reason tony Parker usually avg. around 6/7 assist vs these true point guards that avg 10-13 assist per game. The spurs system allows Parker to be a true pint guard and a shoot first point guard and Parker knows how to handle the responsibility when it comes to taking that good open shot or passing to the open man or coming off a screen for back door passes or an off the screen mid range jumper, etc....while those guys are busy fancy passing Parker is doing it all on the court. Now we d

I'm not saying Dennis isn't going to be good. My question is, is he better than Teague in coach buds system? And to me the answer is no. Is he a more traditional pg than Teague? Yes but I don't think a traditional pg is what coach bud need in his system. In all honesty those who watch the spurs should notice that there is no ball dominant player in the spurs system. Sometimes Parker runs point, sometimes ginobli runs point, sometimes it's diaw, and next year I bet coach pop will start allowing kwahi to run point. If bud is going to run the spurs system here he needs more talent other than His point guards that can run the pick and roll or handle the ball to dribble drive kick out or whatever the hell he's going to do. I think too many on hawksquawk feel that we are going to run a jerry Sloan or mike dantoni like system that requires a pg to dominate the ball and get the offense involved every possession but that's not what this spurs offense is....spurs truly use their sg ginobli and their point forward diaw as playmakers not just one man....Teague can pass the test as one of our playmakers but we need 2 more.

@Diesel your on fire tonight! Spread that spurs like TEAM thinking! LOL…. The hawks are turning into a franchise thats all about the TEAM like the spurs not individual superstars like what OKC has. I don't see OKC winning anything until they pick which alpha they want to keep, in other words either bring in a pg or trade westbrook for about 3 average to good team players that fit around durant.

Seriously am I the only one who has ever thought about this when it came to Dennis? @Diesel thats a good point and I wonder how those who love/like dennis @ @GameTime @Dolfan23 @JayBirdHawk and whoever else feels about this. I mean I like Dennis too but when I think of coach buds spurs like coaching style I don't think of traditional John Stockton point guard of need for coach buds offense to be at its best. I get the PG need to be able to pass well but I don't think he needs to be able to pass like a CP3, Stockton, Nash type to get us to an nba championship…I don't even think tony parker passes as well as those 3 guys but he does know how to win championships something those 3 don't know how to do. With that said to @Diesel point Teague does do what Bud ask of him (at least at the end of the season and in the playoffs) and Dennis may be too traditional to run Coach Buds offensive system. What do you guys think? Should Dennis just be traded?

I can't disagree with what your saying but the league has changed. Guys like horford can play center in today's nba....it is what it is. Hopefully he realizes that he actually has an advantage over most centers in the NBA with being able to shoot the mid range at an high level. Anyways if horford truly wants out I can understand trading him now BUT I don't think horford wants out if the team can somehow get to the ECF.

You crazy as hell! Don't sleep on the youngest MVP in nba history during those times. Sure rosé can't do that anymore because of injury but when he was fully healthy mebrook was never on his level.

Horford need to realize that him playing center is actually a good thing when healthy. Healthy horford is a beast at center with sap playing pf. If we had an actual chance at the ECF this year I'm sure horford will continue playing center. I get that he could have once complained about not being big enough to play center a couple of years ago but that's not true today. Horford can play center against 90% of the nba. Ferry need to just sign a big like bebe to bring in for those bigger centers.

If you are telling the truth sir.....thats cool as hell!

One of the main reasons I like our big man tandem of horford and milsap is because of their BBIQ! I know these two guys can work together and accomplish a lot. We saw how well smith and horford worked with each other.....I truly believe sap and horford will be way better combination.