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  1. Sorry I would kick in my thoughts but its Friday and I am getting out of here: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/col...john&id=2690890 The good stuff is at the bottom: Quote: Earlier this week, our Chris Sheridan wrote about a number of players who were in the NBA last year and aren't this year. Want to know why they're gone? Because a bunch of rookies came in and replaced them. Think of it as the birth and death cycle for NBA careers -- a new generation comes in and, in equal numbers, the old one leaves. This year's new generation isn't exactly off to an eye-popping start, as many of the top first-round picks were drafted more with an eye toward long-term development than immediate impact. Nonetheless, we've played about a quarter of the season already, so it's time to take stock. Obviously, in a draft like this one with so many players who were picked more for what they can do in 2009 than what they can do in 2006, it's way too early to start pegging guys as busts, steals or anything in between. But what we can do is come up with some loose groupings to describe their progress so far, especially when compared to the expectations for these players heading into the season. I've done that below for every first-round pick who's in the league (sorry, Oleksiy Pecherov fans, you'll have to wait 'til next year), as well the second-rounders, Europeans and other hangers-on who are getting regular minutes. (I stress the latter part; you'll see no updates on the Chris McCrays or Robert Hites of the world in this column. Maybe their fans can hold a candlelight vigil with the Pecherov fan club or something.) Here's one man's analysis of how they stack up so far, including the worst, the best, and my pick for Rookie of the Year (so far): The Disappointments They all came in with high hopes, but all have seen their PERs in single digits for most of the season: Adam Morrison, Bobcats: Look, we knew he'd be fairly one-dimensional, but lordy. This guy makes Lara Flynn Boyle seem well-rounded. Morrison is a 6-9 forward playing 35 minutes a night, and yet he's grabbed three offensive rebounds the entire season. While I'd expect the 38.5 percent shooting mark to improve, Morrison's marks of 2.7 rebounds and 2.1 assists aren't nearly enough to offset his occasional scoring outbursts. In fact, his 4.5 rebound rate is the worst of any player 6-7 or taller, and only one player bigger than 6-3 (more on him below) is worse. Marcus Williams, Nets: The Nets thought they were getting the next Mark Jackson, not the next World B. Free. But Williams has shown much more willingness to create shots for himself than for others thus far, which wouldn't be a problem if some of those shots came in the paint or went in the basket. He's hitting 41.5 percent, including 20.0 percent on 3-pointers, and his turnover rate has stayed stubbornly high despite a lack of assists to compensate. Dude, you've got Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson on your team -- share the rock. Rajon Rondo, Celtics: I put Rondo here only because expectations had been so elevated by his spectacular preseason. Now that the real games have started, Rondo's limitations have become more apparent -- namely that no matter how impressive the rest of his game is, his inability to score is a huge problem. Rondo averages only 8.8 points per 40 minutes, on 35.1 percent shooting. He hasn't made a 3-pointer and shoots 56.3 percent from the line, and he has more turnovers than baskets. There aren't enough Tommy Points in the world to overcome that. Quincy Douby, Kings: Kings fans will think I'm being harsh because he's played only 21 minutes. But the 21 minutes are a red flag in themselves, because it means he's failed to beat out Ronnie Price and Jason Hart for minutes; last I checked, neither was contending for an All-Star berth. Douby was supposed to provide instant offense off the pine, and has been unable to do it. Shannon Brown, Cavaliers: Brown is another rookie guard who has failed to make an impact, getting surpassed by second-rounder Daniel Gibson in the Cavs' rotation this week. Despite competing for playing time against a bunch of corpses, Brown has played only 92 minutes and hasn't earned more with his play -- he's shot 10-for-29 from the field in his limited minutes. Dee Brown, Jazz: I had to include him since the first Irrational Jerry Sloan Personnel Decision (IJSPD) of the new season happened this week, with Brown -- who is shooting 16.7 percent -- taking Ronnie Brewer's spot in the rotation. Brown was a second-rounder so it's not like big things were expected, but he shouldn't be playing. The Guys Who Should be Starting These players have seen plenty of action, and have shown they're ready for the next step -- a spot in the starting five. Jordan Farmar, Lakers: Farmar's athleticism has won him a steady gig with the second unit, although he's struggled in two respects -- he's a shaky shooter and he takes bad fouls when he tries to pressure the ball. But with Smush Parker struggling and Farmar's penetration skills adding a bit of zip to the Laker attack, it's more a question of when he takes over than if. Daniel Gibson, Cavaliers: Well, it's easy to say now. With the Cavs suspending their retread-of-the-week program (sorry Messrs. Wesley and Pavlovic), Gibson finally got to the opportunity to start on Wednesday and shined in the win over Toronto. The knock on him in the draft was that he was a shoot-first point guard, but with LeBron effectively playing the point it won't be an issue in Cleveland. As long as he knocks down shots he'll play. Andrea Bargnani, Raptors: If Chad Ford's podcast with Bryan Colangelo didn't get Sam Mitchell's attention, perhaps Bargnani's recent play will. After a slow start, the top overall pick has put together six straight double-figure efforts and seems to be getting comfortable with the NBA 3-point distance. Sure, he can't guard a rock right now, but the Raps aren't getting much from Rasho Nesterovic anyway, and the kid's translated European stats suggest he's even better than he's shown thus far. The Imports Several players with years of experience in Europe crossed the pond this summer. The results have been mixed. Jorge Garbajosa, Raptors: He's pretty much been exactly what I expected. On the one hand, he knows how to play and is a solid defender, which is something Toronto really needed. On the other, his near-total reliance on 20-foot jumpers makes it virtually impossible for him to post decent percentages. He's shooting 43.5 percent with a low free-throw rate, and that's why he's backup material until further notice. Yakhouba Diawara, Nuggets: The French swingman was advertised as a defensive specialist, which is a good thing because he's surely no offensive specialist. Diawara is shooting 36.4 percent and seems intent on shooting 3-pointers despite the fact that he can't make them. He'll lose his spot in the rotation unless more shots start falling. Sergio Rodriguez, Trail Blazers: Spanish Chocolate has taken over the Blazers' backup point guard job, and played well enough as a distributor to overcome some seriously shaky shooting. Rodriguez's assist ratio is 49.2 (percentage of the possessions he uses that end in an assist), which if he kept it up would be the highest mark since I began tracking it. Chances are it won't stay that high, since he's only played 171 minutes, but his passing skills are exceptional. Mickael Gelabale, Sonics: Another French defensive specialist, Gelabale hasn't seen as much action as Diawara and appears even less talented offensively. We might get a much longer look at him if Ray Allen's injury turns out to be serious. Vassilis Spanoulis, Rockets: Note to Mike Krzyzewski: Spanoulis is shooting 26.7 percent on 3-pointers in the NBA this year. Thought you might want to know. Because half of Spanoulis' attempts have come from beyond the arc, his wayward shooting has been a problem. This is consistent with his European stats, so his performance won't improve until he spots up less and gets to the rim more. On a side note, the competition between Spanoulis and Jorge "Eight-Day Shadow" Garbajosa for the league's worst rookie beard should go down right to the wire. Laker reps are trying to get Vladimir Radmanovic involved too, arguing that while Radmanovic isn't a rookie, his beard -- a loaner from Barry Gibb, it appears -- is. The Projects In a draft with several wait-'til-next-year types, these are the most prominent. Tyrus Thomas, Bulls: Broke his nose opening night. Welcome to the NBA, kid. Since then he's had trouble cracking the Bulls' rotation, mixing intriguing athleticism with several moments when his inexperience (just one year of college) has become apparent. A lack of offensive polish is the biggest shortcoming. Thabo Sefolosha, Bulls: A future defensive ace, the Swiss Mister already has Chicago's brass beaming over his long-term future. But for the immediate future, Sefolosha's offense pales in comparison to his defense, so he's not useful for more than spot duty on a team hoping to win the East. Patrick O'Bryant, Warriors: The 7-foot lottery pick has played only 68 minutes, limited by Andris Biedrins' development, Don Nelson's taste for small lineups and his own ineffectiveness. Don't plan on seeing much of him until next fall at the earliest. Mouhamed Sene, Sonics: Here's another 7-foot lottery project, albeit much less far along in his development. Remember, there are different levels of "project." If O'Bryant is a project in a "he needs to refine his skills" kind of way, Sene is a project more in a "he needs to learn the rules" kind of way. Right now he's a poor man's D.J. Mbenga, but with his long arms and athleticism, Sene could be a ridiculously good defensive player down the road. The D-League was made for guys like this, so hopefully Seattle sends him down for a while. Shawne Williams, Pacers: He was supposed to be a project after leaving Memphis following his freshman year, so the fact he hasn't played a minute shouldn't shock anyone. I'd expect him to get some D-League time except that the Pacers' affiliate is in Albuquerque, which doesn't make it real convenient. Solid but not spectacular These guys haven't made many highlight reels, but they've proven helpful right off the bat. Randy Foye, Timberwolves: He defends and he makes some plays, but the Rookie of the Year talk might have been overblown. While Foye has settled in as a solid reserve in the Minnesota backcourt, he's shooting 39.6 percent with a high turnover rate. It's going to be hard for him to increase his role unless there's an injury, because Mike James and Ricky Davis have been productive scorers and Trenton Hassell is defending like crazy. Shelden Williams, Hawks: Williams earned Atlanta's starting power forward job despite some severe offensive limitations, because his muscle and defense were exactly what this team needed up front. If the offense ever comes around he'll be a pretty good player, but I'm not sure that's going to happen. Right now his only "weapon," if you can call it that, is a shaky 15-footer. Hilton Armstrong, Hornets: Armstrong seems to have fallen behind Cedric Simmons in the Hornets' big-man rotation, which is strange because he's played much better. In the two games he's played more than five minutes, he put up 17 and 9 in a win at Detroit, and went 3-for-3 with eight boards in 12 minutes against Dallas. But by all means, keep playing the guy who can't score. Leon Powe: Boston's frontcourt injuries have forced it to use the second-rounder and he's proven competent, continuing Danny Ainge's strong track record with second-round picks. I'm not sure Powe's defense will ever be up to snuff, but he knows his way around the basket. The other concern with Powe is his knees -- that's why he went in Round 2 -- but so far they've held up. Spectacular but not solid They look great on "SportsCenter," but have giant holes in their games: Rodney Carney, 76ers: So if you're 6-6 and everyone talks about how athletic you are and how you can jump out of the gym, shouldn't you grab a rebound every once in a while? Remember above when I said that only one player over 6-3 had a rebound rate worse than Adam Morrison's? This is the guy. Yes, the super-athletic Carney is the worst rebounder of any forward, and of any player over 6-3. At least he's beating Earl Boykins. Renaldo Balkman, Knicks: He's been an electric performer off the bench because of his rebounding and shot-blocking. Yes, you read that right. He's a reserve small forward playing 12 minutes a game, but he leads the Knicks in blocks. However, Balkman is held back by poor ball-handling and a complete lack of an outside shot. He's good enough now to be a decent rotation player, but he won't be anything more unless he picks up some new tricks. Cedric Simmons, Hornets: Simmons is the kind of long, athletic guy who gets scouts salivating, especially with his shot-blocking ability. But his offense is putrid -- he's shooting 40 percent and scoring 8.3 points per 40 minutes. Wednesday against the Lakers he turned the ball over twice when he was just trying to unload a defensive rebound. I'm not saying he won't be good eventually, but he's got work to do. Rudy Gay, Grizzlie: I had high hopes for Gay, but so far I'm underwhelmed, despite his Western Conference Rookie of the Month award. The key is his shooting -- at 37.7 percent from the floor, 32.0 percent on 3s, and 62.2 percent from the line, he's been much less accurate than expected based on his results at Connecticut. He also hasn't done much to dispel the doubts about his motor, as he's tended to settle for jumpers rather than attacking the rim. He's done a nice job on the boards, though. The incompletes Injuries and/or numbers games have conspired to keep these players off the court, so the jury's still out: Brandon Roy, Trail Blazers: Roy was the leading Rookie of the Year contender after a solid start in the first five games, but a heel problem has him on the shelf indefinitely. Kyle Lowry, Grizzlies: Lowry played the first 10 games and was so good that it's shocking he didn't get more playing time. He can't shoot, but his other numbers were attention-getters -- he rebounded like a forward, constantly got to the rim and drew fouls, and had a phenomenally high steals rate. Unfortunately, a wrist injury will keep him sidelined much of the season. J.J. Redick, Magic: A back problem, the Magic's fast start, and the unexpected health of Grant Hill have conspired to keep the college player of the year bench-ridden for all but 12 minutes. Smart-aleck comment: Orlando's lottery picks from 2005 and 2006 have combined to score six NBA points. Maurice Ager, Mavericks: Ager won't get many chances in the Mavs' deep backcourt, and that 5-for-22 start from the floor isn't doing him many favors. He could be headed to the D-League. Mardy Collins, Knicks: Another late first-rounder stuck in a deep backcourt, Collins is the fifth man in a four-guard rotation and has played just 34 minutes. Josh Boone, Nets: New Jersey's other first-rounder was on the shelf with a shoulder injury until being activated earlier this week. In Nets' fans wildest dreams, he emerges as the answer in the middle and replaces Jason Collins. We'll see. The under-the-radar studs I'm saving the best for last here, so there's a little reward for both of you who read this far. These guys haven't received the hype of players like Morrison and Bargnani, but they've been excellent: Ronnie Brewer, Jazz: A shooting guard who can't shoot from the outside, Brewer has been good enough in other areas to offset the shaky stroke. He takes almost 60 percent of his shots on the inside (according to 82games.com), so his field-goal percentage is 52.1. And he averages better than a steal every 20 minutes. But he fell out of the Jazz rotation this week because of the aforementioned IJSPD -- coming on the heels of another indignity when he served as C.J. Miles' backup for the first seven games. Brewer will get more chances, though, and one presumes he'll keep producing. LaMarcus Aldridge, Trail Blazers: The Blazers spent the whole summer sandbagging us, saying that Aldridge was a project and might not play much. Fuggedaboutit -- this guy is good. He just reaches his arms way up and launches that 15-footer, and there's no way anybody can get near it. He's shooting 53.9 percent and put together his first career double-double on Tuesday to help Portland steal a win in Detroit. Once he adds some muscle he'll be unstoppable. Craig Smith, Timberwolves: Since I'm giving Sloan such a hard time, let's not give Minnesota coach Dwane Casey a free pass. Here's a guy who is shooting 55.1 percent, has a high rebound rate and a prolific rate of steals for a big man, and is second among all rookies in PER -- and the T-Wolves are limiting him to 19 minutes a game so Mark Blount can stay in the starting lineup? Seriously? It's not like there's a question of untapped potential here -- we know Blount is a stiff. Look, I realize Smith is only 6-7 and it's a tough hurdle mentally to think of your starting center conceding half a foot every night, but how obvious does it have to be that this is their best option before Casey makes a move? The Rookie of the Year Paul Millsap, Jazz: Who knows if he'll eventually win the trophy? A lot of guys are getting more minutes and will exceed him hype-wise, while Utah's deep frontcourt is going to limit him to 20 minutes a game or so. But to date Millsap has been the best rookie, hands down. He's managed to earn steady playing time even though the Jazz didn't have a rotation spot for him when the year opened, and has been so good that the IJSPD factor (see above) hasn't been an issue. He's shooting 58 percent and has one of the highest rebound rates at his position, and despite a short, wide build he's a good shot-blocker. Overall, he's leading all rookies in PER, and he's done it for a team that sports the league's best record. Speaking of which, perhaps it's time for the league's scouts to reevaluate their position on short power forwards. The two best rookies so far were second-rounders who lasted that long based largely on their stature -- even though both racked up huge numbers in college. There's a historical basis in this, as 6-7 and 6-8 power forwards don't have a great track record of success. But one has to wonder whether the shift to smaller lineups in recent seasons has made it possible for these guys to thrive again, and whether scouting has to adjust to the NBA's new realities. Just food for thought as we close out the rookie report. Ok F, it looks like we should have listened to Walter and suffered through some loses so we coudl get the NBDL player that needs to learn the rules.........LOL I love the quote about the league becoming 6'8 or 6'9 guys, wait, wait, wait, wasn't there a GM doing this in the past few years that got laughed at for it, I love this stuff, they bash a man then see his wisdom.
  2. Actually 2-2 that lose to Seattle at home, but I get your point.
  3. http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...g_the_hawk.html Quote: Having criticized the Hawks when they were winning only two games a month, I feel the need to point out that they’re now capable of winning two games a week. Fair, after all, is fair. I don’t know how long it will be until they’re really good. I don’t know if they’ll ever get good. But honesty compels me to admit they’re better than I thought they’d be so far this season. Whenever they lose a game and I figure, “Here comes one of those seven-game skids,” they up and win one that makes me go, “Hmmmm.” Winning in Denver on Wednesday was one such game. Down by 17 inside the final 10 minutes, they wound up beating a good team on the road. That wouldn’t have happened last year or any year this century. Does this mean I’m recanting every nasty word I’ve written about this organization? No, it doesn’t. If the Hawks had drafted Chris Paul/Deron Williams or had figured out a way to turn Boris Diaw into a player, they’d have been winning long ago. And an 8-9 record, while good by recent Hawk standards, isn’t good by most any other measure. But enough of that. Today’s point is that I’m starting to take the Hawks seriously again. I don’t know if I’ll still be taking them seriously a month from now or three months from now, but at this moment I am. I like the way they’re playing. I’m curious if they can keep it up. If they can, we’ll talk again. If they can’t, forget I ever said anything Way to be the worlds biggest fence sitter. So instead of doing your job, being a sports journalist, your answer is yeh so if they suck again in 3 months I knew it, but if they are good I saw it coming. How genuis. He still manages to take swipes at BK and the Hawks. There isn't a positive not followed up by a negative. How about a lil love for team missing 3 of its top 6 and 2 starters most all season, halfway done with the West Coast trip, and yet still hanging around. Not any optimism about where we could be when everyone is back. I want to see one column that says these guys are hanging in but wait till Marvin, Speedy, Chill come back. Imagine our starters of Speedy, JJ, Marvin, Josh, Z. Then our bench vs other teams benchs with Lue, Salim, Chill, Shell, LO. Wait doesnt that bench sound alot like our starting lineup wtih all these injuries. If our MASH squad can go 8-9 why cant our regulars have stretches of say 13-4 ball. I think the future is bright, and all this bum can say is if we had Chris Paul. I love that line we would have been winning long ago had we drafted Paul. Long ago like what last year, since it was his rookie year. So we could have won some last year, gee NO didnt go to the playoffs last year, and they aren't in right now playing .500 ball just like the Hawks.
  4. Quote: Quote: This is just what I posted on another thread but this is anything but a small lineup. This would be our best rebounding lineup with huge size advantages everywhere. Think for a 7 or 8 mintue stretch. PG - JJ (6'7) probably a good 4 inches on most PG's SG - JC (6'8) a few inches taller SF - MW (6'9) still above average height or right at it PF - JS (6'9) average C - SW (6'9) maybe giving up an inch or two, but only ot shaq and Z in the east. This lineup would be able to run, and talk about getting hands in the passing lane. This could be our shut down defensive unit. I would love to see this lineup to close out games. Make the other team go to taller slow guys and run them to death. good points, but i really like JJ at the SG position where he can post up, come off screens and not worry about the PG position. this lineup looks good as a changeup, but for the vast majority of JJ's minutes on the floor i would rather see him at the SG position and not have to worry about PG responsibilities.
  5. OK, the jokes up someone logged in as Walt. Thats two positive post in a 15 minute stretch thats not possible. There was even no mention of how these awful draft picks manage to win while being all banged up. I think chicken little said it best: The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
  6. SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, we said the same about Shuttlesworth in a suit.
  7. The point you are failing to realize is that we outscored them in 3 out of 4 quarters. We played better then them for 75% of the game. If I was a Denver fan I could say in the third "damn we are lucky to be winning right now. If it wasnt for those Hawk turnovers we would be down by 17 ourselves". There is always if that or if this. How about we fouled Evans every time he was in the paint? It worked, he is a below 50% FT shooter for his career. It was like the hack a shaq. You act as if it was the whole team. We fouled guys proposefully becuase they cant' shoot. Evans missed 7 ft himself and Najara another historically poor free throw shooter mised 5. Take the two guys out that we fouled on puropse, and Denver shoots 14-19 from the line. So we fouled two poor FT shooters on purpose if they got it in the paint. Got a baseball sceniro for you. Say two outs in a two run game. The 7 hitter is up, the coach intentionally walks the 7 and 8 guys to get to the pitcher's spot. Being an historically bad hitter the pitcher strikes out. The coach does this 3 times in the game. Then at the end of the game you say geez we were 0-3 with runners in scoring postion thats why we lost. NO, the team was counting on that pitcher to strike out. Denver aside from the guys we hacked went 14-19. Sometimes stradigies pay off.
  8. This is just what I posted on another thread but this is anything but a small lineup. This would be our best rebounding lineup with huge size advantages everywhere. Think for a 7 or 8 mintue stretch. PG - JJ (6'7) probably a good 4 inches on most PG's SG - JC (6'8) a few inches taller SF - MW (6'9) still above average height or right at it PF - JS (6'9) average C - SW (6'9) maybe giving up an inch or two, but only ot shaq and Z in the east. This lineup would be able to run, and talk about getting hands in the passing lane. This could be our shut down defensive unit. I would love to see this lineup to close out games. Make the other team go to taller slow guys and run them to death.
  9. Point-Counter point. You say we got lucky. We won 3 out of 4 quarters against a team. We led at the halfway point. You say we got lucky because of Denver missing FT. How about Denver getting lucky on our 12 turnovers in the 3rd quarter? If it wasnt for that we dominate the game. Every NBA game you can point to something and say well if they had done that or that. The point is 4 of our top 6 were out, back to back nights, on the road, and we played well for 3 quarters and were able to get the win. I will point out this is NBA life, for all of those fans saying if it wasnt for our missed FT we would have won the 3 other games, and if Denver makes theirs. We are what we are. You give games, you receive games. But we are 8-9 team that has played almost the entire season without 3 of our top players and 2 being starters. We are almost out of the dreaded west coast swing and we are getting our players back. Thats what we are. That makes me . Had you told me we would be at .500 almost 20 games or a 1/4 of the season in with no Marvin, Speedy, or Chill I would have laughed at you. I will always critque Woody, but for now he man is starting to redeem himself, a little.
  10. So I wonder what all of Walt's project players would hae done down the stretch. Getting tips on balls, hitting clutch free throws, ummmmmmmmmmmm. I love the irony in Walt's argument. He blames BK for having an awful winning %. So clearly winning now is important. So Bk drafts the best guy to helps us win now, and stop rebuilding. Then Walter gets upset cause he cant havea guy that will be good 5 years from now. Just a hunch but I doubt Sene gets 4 steals and its the big FT down the stretch. So I guess Walt would rather have a win in 5 years then this one tonight?
  11. I am probably one of the biggest Woody "haters" out there,but I will give him credit for this win. We went ot a zone early because Denver is a extremly poor shooting team. Woodson went away from it before they figured out how to beat it. Then 4 minutes into the 4th Karl pulls Smith, their nly shooter. Bang, just when Melo was getting in a groove taking it to the hole we come out of the timeou back in that zone and completely threw them off. Before JR could get back to the table it was down o a 7 point game and we were back. Had we stayed in it the entire game Karl would have found the weakness, but it was this changing back and forth and springing it the right time to catch them off guard that helped us. Kudos Woody. It was an interesting one at that, most teams play a 2-3, but it was a 3-2 and with our long guys it created 0 passing lanes, notice all the tips. Then when JR came in it was more of a box and 1. I was actually really impressed with this strategy and actually seeing that our players had worked on it. Never thought I would see a well prepared Woody team.
  12. How bout a line up for about 6 minutes of: JJ - PG Chill - SG Marvin - SF Smoove - PF Shell - C I know Shell will give up a few inches but everywhere else would be huge mismatches, and a huge rebounding advantage. I would love to see that.
  13. Why does everyone still think its the Oden sweepstakes, he might come out, but he has said publicly he loves college and missing the start of the season might prompt him to stay. His family isn't in dier straights, and he loves being in school. I bet he stays at least one more year. Duncan stayed all 4. I dont see Oden staying all 4, but is it not concivable that Oden doesn't come out this year.
  14. I agree usually with the Woody bashing, but it made sense last night. 1) Shelden got back in the 4th gave up 2 off. reb and Woody pulled him to prove his point and teach him he has to get on the glass. 2) salim was in because he was the only one porviding a pop. Down 14 you need scoring, Lue couldnt hit anything, and you need someone to stretch the D. Salim was the only one to shoot well beside JJ, 3/6 from 3 I believe. He was hustling too. He made that steal on the inbound to get it to 6, before Boze made that awful inbound to blow the come back. With speedy out and Lue playing the PG, JJ slid to the 3 to make Lewis guard him. The hope was that Lewis might get in foul trouble or tire do to having to play D, since he was their one option. So that puts Salim as the only 2 guard left with Chill out. 3) Solomon, uhhh ,yeh I got nothing, he was reboudning, and playing D, the only guy with any energy it looked like
  15. Did all of you miss the boat when out of training camp, the talk was Ridnour would be benched and basically assume a back up role because of his poor play. Then Watson started the first 3 games and played awful. Ridnour has had an awful last 60 games or so. He got less and less time last year toward the end.
  16. I love Smitty too, but you do realize Zebo was Randolph's nickname in college, and they say it over the PA every time he scores. Smith played up there and thats what they call him.
  17. On Freiji it wasnt that he didnt score, but 0 reb, 0 asst, 0 steals, 0 blocks and 4 fouls. That sounds bad whats worse all 4 fouls were and 1's. Instead of wrapping a guy up he just stuck his hand out tagged him and let him score. All 4 were and 1's. It was rather embrassing. The icing on the cake was late in the game we were down 5 and cleveland at the line. LO goes up or the rebound off the missed free throw and grabs it, Frieji knocks it outof his hands Gooden picks it up and dunks its down 7. Then Frieji comes down on offense takes a runner in the lane that literally hits the logo, bounces out for long rebound. Comes back down the court and commits one of his and 1's on Lebron, presto in 23 seconds we go from down 5 and should have the ball to down 10, and done. That my friends is why we are mad.
  18. Still waiting diesel, you asked and I muted your argument, so you cohse to ignore ???? Thats not like you.
  19. Do these min. make sense to you now?
  20. I think we all see your point, I just don't see how you said your Fanship was on the line. I agree its how we play. Last year we lost and everyone points to the record, but you could see the strides. I get that.
  21. Diesel I totally disagree with your stance, but be carefull if you dont agree with Ron, and try and show him what your side his he gets upset. Then the personal jabs come out, then he loses all points of the argument whines and blocks you. Gee so Sothron thought I was a make believe troll. So now I guess Diesell, Perioa, who else have you been squabbling with recently? Every notice its you getting in all these personal nits. Maybe its everyone or maybe ITS YOU. Phew much better. Sidenote my pic from the game with Mr. Levenson was up, anytime you want to discuss come to section 310. Thanks.
  22. accept the dumb a@@ on NBA tonight f'd it up. They were showing the highlights and Mash said the "Philips factory was open for business" i was like oh lord
  23. Possible lineups to make these minutes work. Not everything has to be cut and dry Diesel just cause Chill is backup SG doesnt mean he only plays when Joe is out. Uptempo lineup: Speedy, JJ, Marvin, Chill, Smith Big Line: JJ, Marvin, Chill, Smith, LO Shooting Line: Lue, Salim, JJ, Chill, (any big to reb) Mismatches will dictate game to game which line up we play more of but for 5 minute spurts there can be a random mix of players ot get the mismatch you want. If a team goes big and you want to run them use the smaller quicker guys and visa versa. This is the first time in 7 years we have had depth and been able to adapt to who we play. We can match up wtih slower, bigger teams, we can also match up with smaller quicker teams. Thats what makes us dangerous. Your other point about Marvin and what he has done in the NBA. Take a look at his last two months. 3/22 @Phi L 115-106 31 8-12 .667 1-2 .500 4-5 .800 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 21 3/25 Dal L 98-83 30 6-16 .375 0-1 .000 1-4 .250 0 0 0 3 3 8 11 1 13 3/26 @Orl L 108-101 26 4-8 .500 0-0 -- 5-5 1.000 1 0 0 5 5 1 6 1 13 3/28 @Cha L 125-117 26 6-10 .600 0-2 .000 2-2 1.000 0 0 3 5 0 0 0 0 14 3/29 Ind W 94-93 31 4-8 .500 0-0 -- 1-1 1.000 0 0 1 0 3 2 5 2 9 3/31 Njn L 91-88 23 2-4 .500 0-1 .000 5-6 .833 0 0 2 5 1 1 2 1 9 Numbers for March 25.4 53-110 .482 1-9 .111 49-65 .754 0.5 0.1 1.2 3.2 2.1 3.2 5.3 0.5 10.4 DATE OPP RESULT MIN FG PCT 3P PCT FT PCT STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS 4/2 @Mem L 98-87 27 3-9 .333 0-0 -- 2-2 1.000 0 1 1 2 1 3 4 2 8 4/4 @Njn L 96-94 0 0-0 -- 0-0 -- 0-0 -- 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4/5 Min W 101-99 29 4-9 .444 0-0 -- 0-0 -- 0 0 0 2 1 2 3 1 8 4/7 Was W 114-101 22 3-7 .429 0-0 -- 5-8 .625 1 1 2 1 3 3 6 0 11 4/9 @Min L 84-83 26 1-4 .250 0-0 -- 4-4 1.000 0 0 0 1 3 3 6 0 6 4/10 @Orl L 105-88 32 3-11 .273 0-1 .000 5-7 .714 2 0 1 1 3 4 7 1 11 4/12 Chi L 96-90 37 4-10 .400 0-1 .000 2-2 1.000 0 0 5 3 0 7 7 0 10 4/14 Cha L 116-110 39 9-14 .643 0-1 .000 4-5 .800 2 0 2 4 2 4 6 2 22 4/15 @Mil W 120-114 41 6-14 .429 0-0 -- 7-7 1.000 1 1 1 3 6 4 10 3 19 4/18 Mia W 103-100 27 6-10 .600 0-0 -- 4-7 .571 0 0 0 1 5 4 9 2 16 4/19 @Cle L 100-99 31 6-12 .500 0-0 -- 0-0 -- 0 0 1 4 2 1 3 1 12 Numbers for April 31.1 45-100 .450 0-3 .000 33-42 .786 0.6 0.3 1.3 2.2 2.6 3.5 6.1 1.2 12.3 So as a 19 year old rookie he got 12.3 a game in his last 12 games. After working all summer on his post moves, why cant he get just 3 more in what will prob be 8 extra minutes. There is no reason to think that 15/7 is unreal. Also at 15/7 I would say we are 10-3 right now if he was healthy. Everyone talks about Josh Smith post all-star and how he looked. Marvin was equally impressive for a rookie. Everyone says summer league doesnt count preseason doesnt count. Um helllllo he played last year and you can see what he has done. That all be it as a 19 yr old rookie.
  24. Diesel just for enjoyment. Woody has already said he would love to rest JJ and the guys more to keep them fresh all season. Our depth allowing to keep everyone fresh is what won us those 4 games in a row. Here is what I think it will look like. Starters: (Personally I think Shell should start over Smith, but this is what I think Woody will do) JJ - 36 min MW - 28 min JS - 28 min ZP - 30 min SC - 28 min Total: 150 min Bench: These minutes will rotate depending on matchups like with Cha.small lineup Wed. night or if we are playing Det with bigs. JC - 22 min SW - 20 min TL - 25 min LO - 13 min SS - 5 min SJ - 5 min MF - SOL Total: 90 Like I said some nights Salim might get some of SW minutes and it might be 12 and 12. But there are enough minutes with quality depth to go around. Lets not forget its an 82 game season, someone else is bound to get hurt, and it never hurts if you get in fould trouble or one guy is just off one night.
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