Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dismantling the heart of the franchise to add JR Rider was a reasonable risk to take. Koncak's contract set the tone for the future of the NBA. Signing that guy (who's name always escapes me) to a huge, cap-crippling contract while watching the guy spend years on injured reserve, was an act of heartwarming charity. It was a pretty good idea to give Nique a breath of fresh air somewhere else while he still had a little gas in his tank. And the draft picks! Oh, the draft picks! Who could have been more creative? Who else could have, even blindly, invested 4 first round picks in one draft, and the only one who stuck in the NBA was the one he dumped to another team on draft night? We were pretty smart to trust the franchise to him for so many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 16, 2007 Moderators Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Who else could have, even blindly, invested 4 first round picks in one draft, and the only one who stuck in the NBA was the one he dumped to another team on draft night? Which year are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Forgotten what year - it was Dion Glover, Jumaine Jones, Cal Bowdler and someone else whom I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Signing that guy (who's name always escapes me) to a huge, cap-crippling contract while watching the guy spend years on injured reserve, was an act of heartwarming charity. We were pretty smart to trust the franchise to him for so many years. Ken Norman's family really really appreciate Mr. Babcock. Snake wore the most serious suits, Every game. A different one I think. Positivity Baby Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Woops! Just looked it up - the other pick was Jason Terry. That one was good. (1999 draft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Ken Norman! Why can't I ever remember that name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 16, 2007 Moderators Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Woops! Just looked it up - the other pick was Jason Terry. That one was good. (1999 draft) That was the year I thought you might be talking about, but wasn't sure if you were including second round picks or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roezag Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Signing that guy (who's name always escapes me) to a huge, cap-crippling contract while watching the guy spend years on injured reserve, was an act of heartwarming charity. Alan Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Other people are thankful for Babcock's tenure in Atlanta, such as..... Relatives of Alan Henderson and Chris Crawford Every NBA team that drafted BEHIND him Jim Les Ennis Whatley John Bagley Todd Mundt Snoop Graham Henri James Willie Burton and... Every mediocre GM in the league. They could pull up Babs' track record, and tell their owners, 'hey, I'm better than him and he's not worried about his job, just give me more time'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Is that banana frowning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 16, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Pete was the best GM in Hawks history. He did not sign Koncrap to that deal, that was Stan Kasten. I also might add that its hard to draft great talent when his picks were usually late teen to early twenties picks. He took over a veteran winning team, dismantled it, rebuilt another winning team and dismantled it and while the rebuilding did not work out he did not leave any bad contracts behind. He had a good run here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Pete was the best GM in Hawks history. He did not sign Koncrap to that deal, that was Stan Kasten. I also might add that its hard to draft great talent when his picks were usually late teen to early twenties picks. He took over a veteran winning team, dismantled it, rebuilt another winning team and dismantled it and while the rebuilding did not work out he did not leave any bad contracts behind. He had a good run here. Atta boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted November 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Pete was the best GM in Hawks history. You do realize the Hawks once won the NBA title, I'm sure. You may have meant ATLANTA Hawks history. If so, that is a backhanded compliment. Wonder why he's not GMing another NBA franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 16, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I thought this was positive day? The Hawks only title was back in St. Louis with Bob Pettite. As for Pete's record and what he had to do in terms of rebuilding and managing trades and salaries while under the cap I think he did a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 My Positive about Bab: Babs was a nice guy, I'd hire him if I could afford to pay his salary. He stole Dikembe, Mookie, Smith and Laetner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 16, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Don't forget Long as well in the Smitty trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 The Rumeal Robinson for Mookie Blaylock was sweet ! Then he traded in a 33 year old Blaylock for Jason Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Did Babcock bring in Reggie Theus and Moses Malone in the late 80's or was that Kasten ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Quote: Did Babcock bring in Reggie Theus and Moses Malone in the late 80's or was that Kasten ? Kasten. Yes JT too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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