D.R.P. Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 If the Warriors get a top 3 pick, it could benefit the Hawks greatly. Now is the time for Hawks management to become proactive, its not the time for complacency. Complacency will likely lead to years of mediocrity at best. The way to stave off mediocrity is for the Hawks to make some trades. Sorry some non Hawks fans (you know people who are truly only fans of a particular player on the team and not the team itself) but its time to trade the player with the most trade value on our roster "Josh Smith". Truly, if it took Josh 5 years to figure out he shouldn't be shooting 3's, then how long will it take for him to figure out some other simple things. A trade to the Warriors would greatly benefit Josh. He would really improve their porous defense and would be a shoe in all-star playing in that system. There is no player in this draft that would have as much of an immediate impact on the Warriors as Josh Smith. The Warriors already have a star a point guard in Stephen Curry and Derrick Favors is gonna take years to develop (heck Lawal out rebounded and out scored Favors at Tech last year). 1. Say Golden State gets the first pick. The Hawks must attempt to put a package together to try and get John Wall. Hawks trade: Josh Smith 2010 #24 Pick Future 1st Round Pick Warriors trade: 1st pick (John Wall) Vladimir Radmanovic Kelenna Azubuike With this trade the Hawks finally get a franchise point guard and get the Paul/Williams monkey off their back. If the Hawks are gonna even think about giving Joe Johnson near max money, they better get a point guard to run the show, therefore prolonging Joe's effectiveness. The Warriors get the perfect fit for their team in Josh Smith. They move Azubuike and Radmanovic for cap purposes sense their contracts (expire after 10-11 season) add up to 10 million plus. Next Post= Why its time to move Horford to the 4 and how the Hawks can get a center. After the lottery, if the Warriors end up with the 2 or 3 pick in the draft (maybe even the 4 pick); I'll explain why the Hawks would still be better off moving Josh for that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 If the Warriors get a top 3 pick, it could benefit the Hawks greatly. Now is the time for Hawks management to become proactive, its not the time for complacency. Complacency will likely lead to years of mediocrity at best. The way to stave off mediocrity is for the Hawks to make some trades. Sorry some non Hawks fans (you know people who are truly only fans of a particular player on the team and not the team itself) but its time to trade the player with the most trade value on our roster "Josh Smith". Truly, if it took Josh 5 years to figure out he shouldn't be shooting 3's, then how long will it take for him to figure out some other simple things. A trade to the Warriors would greatly benefit Josh. He would really improve their porous defense and would be a shoe in all-star playing in that system. There is no player in this draft that would have as much of an immediate impact on the Warriors as Josh Smith. The Warriors already have a star a point guard in Stephen Curry and Derrick Favors is gonna take years to develop (heck Lawal out rebounded and out scored Favors at Tech last year). 1. Say Golden State gets the first pick. The Hawks must attempt to put a package together to try and get John Wall. Hawks trade: Josh Smith 2010 #24 Pick Future 1st Round Pick Warriors trade: 1st pick (John Wall) Vladimir Radmanovic Kelenna Azubuike With this trade the Hawks finally get a franchise point guard and get the Paul/Williams monkey off their back. If the Hawks are gonna even think about giving Joe Johnson near max money, they better get a point guard to run the show, therefore prolonging Joe's effectiveness. The Warriors get the perfect fit for their team in Josh Smith. They move Azubuike and Radmanovic for cap purposes sense their contracts (expire after 10-11 season) add up to 10 million plus. Next Post= Why its time to move Horford to the 4 and how the Hawks can get a center. After the lottery, if the Warriors end up with the 2 or 3 pick in the draft (maybe even the 4 pick); I'll explain why the Hawks would still be better off moving Josh for that pick. Let me clarify this trade if I may. Hawks give up Josh Smith and 2 first round draft picks for a good point guard that will be great in 3-5 years and 2 bench players we will dump to a team that wants to dump salary at the trade deadline. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.R.P. Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Let me clarify this trade if I may. Hawks give up Josh Smith and 2 first round draft picks for a good point guard that will be great in 3-5 years and 2 bench players we will dump to a team that wants to dump salary at the trade deadline. No thank you. John Wall won't be good (Bibby in his heyday was good) he'll be face of the franchise great / best point guard in the nba potentially great. Lets face it, the Hawks have not had a true face of the franchise since Dominique. Besides Wall being the caliber of a player that can eventually lead a franchise to championship(s) (see: superstar), he can do something no Hawks player currently can do; he will fill the arena seats with fans. It's time that Hawks management and fans grow a pair and realize that Josh may not get any better than he currently is (a non all-star). Josh Smith is not or will not be a face of the franchise changing player for the Hawks. Edited May 18, 2010 by D.R.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 John Wall will be great, but Smith is close to being a star, what he's saying is there's no need to trade all of that for Wall. In fact Smith by himself is more the enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 LIke the way you thinnk but it will never happen. If we give up Smith we need to get a big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 For the record. John Wall will be a top 5 PG in this league in no time. He will be an elite player. B/c of that NO team will trade Wall for Smoove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 For the record. John Wall will be a top 5 PG in this league in no time. He will be an elite player. B/c of that NO team will trade Wall for Smoove. Not in a million years will a team do that. I do not think he will be a bust either; but even if he is, the hype alone will last at least two full seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 For the record. John Wall will be a top 5 PG in this league in no time. He will be an elite player. B/c of that NO team will trade Wall for Smoove. One team could possibly do that trade and it will really help them in their plan. Wall is a PnR PG, you need to have the players who fit around him to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 18, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 If GS gets the #1 pick, I expect to see Monta Ellis being shopped - not the #1 pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted May 18, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 If GS gets the #1 pick, I expect to see Monta Ellis being shopped - not the #1 pick. I was just about to post that. The most likely person to be traded if Golden State gets Wall or Evan Turner is by FAR Ellis. He's on the books for a lot of money and they already have a better player in Curry and a perhaps better rookie coming in that has to play either PG or SG. That means Ellis is the one to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Y'all fail to realize the love for Josh Smith in the fan base. Josh represents the Atl. Trading Josh for ANYONE that isn't Kobe, Lebron, or Wade is akin to the loss of Mike Vick, Nique, or Deion Sanders. Whether you think it is smart basketball or not, Josh Smith is our Derek Jeter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Y'all fail to realize the love for Josh Smith in the fan base. Josh represents the Atl. Trading Josh for ANYONE that isn't Kobe, Lebron, or Wade is akin to the loss of Mike Vick, Nique, or Deion Sanders. Whether you think it is smart basketball or not, Josh Smith is our Derek Jeter. Deion, Vick? Those guys were extremely popular around the league among a lot of fans. Smith is not even that popular in Atlanta. People like him but Warrick Dunn type of like, not Vick. The Dome was sold-out and had 40K waiting list with Vick. We barely sellout the arena in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Y'all fail to realize the love for Josh Smith in the fan base. Josh represents the Atl. Trading Josh for ANYONE that isn't Kobe, Lebron, or Wade is akin to the loss of Mike Vick, Nique, or Deion Sanders. Whether you think it is smart basketball or not, Josh Smith is our Derek Jeter. That is a pretty sad statement IMO. Our Jeter, Nique, Vick, or Dion has not made one all-star game, won one scoring title, won one rebounding or block shots title, and finally after six seasons he made a all defensive team. Do you realize the company you just put him in has played on all-star type teams for 90% of their careers? Yet our Jeter has not even made one after six seasons; our owners need to get with the program is all I got to say. Sund had his year to evaluate; now its time to get down to the business of putting together a championship caliber team. Edited May 18, 2010 by Buzzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.R.P. Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Y'all fail to realize the love for Josh Smith in the fan base. Josh represents the Atl. Trading Josh for ANYONE that isn't Kobe, Lebron, or Wade is akin to the loss of Mike Vick, Nique, or Deion Sanders. Whether you think it is smart basketball or not, Josh Smith is our Derek Jeter. How does Josh represent Atlanta when he's never seen being involved in something in the A. Also, when has Josh been in any television endorsement commercials. To compare Josh to Vick, Dominique, Deion, and Jeter, is asinine. If you went around Atlanta and asked people what player comes to their mind when you say Hawks, Josh wouldn't even be the second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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