As previously believed, ESPN radio in Atlanta is reporting the #Cavs are close to sending Shaq to the Hawks for Marvin Williams in S&T.

[JJFAN4LF]

Bob Rathbun's Twitter: Until I hear differently from Mr Sund, I will consider the Shaq conversation closed.

[gutz]

Why would we trade marvin for Shaq? It makes no sense. We'd overpay Shaq and at the same leave a gaping hole in our starting rotation at small forward.

Exactly! Trading Marvin for Shaq makes ZERO sense. Your not shaving that much off the payroll. Only like a year since we'd have to sign Shaq to at least a 2yr deal when Marvin only has 3yrs left on his.

[Wurider05]

I think that Shaq and his people are trying to play the league. If he really wanted to be here he would have been here by now. He is only considering us for the money. Let's leave it alone.

[Joker]

Exactly! Trading Marvin for Shaq makes ZERO sense. Your not shaving that much off the payroll. Only like a year since we'd have to sign Shaq to at least a 2yr deal when Marvin only has 3yrs left on his.

Yep, this is from Cleveland, until I hear this from Atlanta, it's not happening.

[coachx]

Exactly! Trading Marvin for Shaq makes ZERO sense. Your not shaving that much off the payroll. Only like a year since we'd have to sign Shaq to at least a 2yr deal when Marvin only has 3yrs left on his.

Except for the fact that centers are hard to find and wings grow on trees.

I have watched the Hawks get bullied in the paint for the last decade. It would be nice for us to have a guy who can dish out a little pain for once.

Edited July 16, 2010 by coachx

[swanlee]

This is worth it just to unload Marvin's contract, It's a bonus that we get Shaq and anything else from Cleveland. Unloading his contract plus the TPE means we could actually try and sign a player better than Marvin to replace him plus our center issue is solved for a year or two. Marvin a role player that will never ever be worth what we were paying him. He is easily replaceable for alot less money.

[Joker]

This is worth it just to unload Marvin's contract, It's a bonus that we get Shaq and anything else from Cleveland. Unloading his contract plus the TPE means we could actually try and sign a player better than Marvin to replace him plus our center issue is solved for a year or two. Marvin a role player that will never ever be worth what we were paying him. He is easily replaceable for alot less money.

I will hold you to those words.

[Jody23]

Exactly! Trading Marvin for Shaq makes ZERO sense. Your not shaving that much off the payroll. Only like a year since we'd have to sign Shaq to at least a 2yr deal when Marvin only has 3yrs left on his.

Marvin has four years left on his deal I do believe.

[BudBall]

I like the deal even though I know Marvin is gona avg like 16ppg over there.

[swanlee]

I will hold you to those words.

That's fine Marvin has not done jack squat here, he is the total definition of average and he is not being paid like an average player. He was a complete waste of a pick and an even more waste to re sign him for so much. He can be replaced very easily.

[Jody23]

Except for the fact that centers are hard to find and wings grow on trees.

I have watched the Hawks get bullied in the paint for the last decade. It would be nice for us to have a guy who can dish out a little pain for once.

+1

No disrespect to Marvin, but he's not going to solve one of the Hawks most pressing issues. Shaq, on the other hand, just might.

[gutz]

Except for the fact that centers are hard to find and wings grow on trees.

I have watched the Hawks get bullied in the paint for the last decade. It would be nice for us to have a guy who can dish out a little pain for once.

Why don't we just sign Shaq outright and keep Marvin? He is a FREE AGENT.

[NineOhTheRino]

smh at this idiotic nonsense...and what happens if Shaq says "F this I'm retiring"

Edited July 16, 2010 by NineOhTheRino

[D.R.P.]

Also Bob Rathbun also tweeted: All baloney Shaqs people stirring the s---

Which Zach Klein responded: yep.. total garbage.. Shaq is just ticked off no one wants to pay him $$$ for his old tired body

There's nothing to that rumor, just Espn radio re-hashing.

[MaceCase]

Except for the fact that centers are hard to find and wings grow on trees.

I have watched the Hawks get bullied in the paint for the last decade. It would be nice for us to have a guy who can dish out a little pain for once.

Putting a little too much stock in a 38 year old guy whose obvious motivation right now is maintaining his lifestyle not advancing a team to a ring.

If this is 31 year old Shaq, I'd throw half the team at him, even for a 34 year old Shaq but at 38 with his mileage and his asking price, hell no. We've seen how Shaq and desperate teams have worked out the past 3 years.

[coachx]

Why don't we just sign Shaq outright and keep Marvin? He is a FREE AGENT.

Money apparently. I wish they would stick to their guns and say take the MLE or go some where else.

However, according to the Hawks beat writer, MC, the Hawks do not think Shaq is worth the full MLE b/c it pushes then in the luxury tax. Flipping salarieswith Shaq and Marvin equals the books out and keeps the ASG from paying the tax while also shedding extra years on Marvin's contract.

[TheTruth]

Why don't we just sign Shaq outright and keep Marvin? He is a FREE AGENT.

Because he wants more than the MLE...and we might just be the one team to foolishly give it to him.

[Joker]

That's fine Marvin has not done jack squat here, he is the total definition of average and he is not being paid like an average player. He was a complete waste of a pick and an even more waste to re sign him for so much. He can be replaced very easily.

We'll see if anything goes down. As I said, with Atlanta being stupid, no reason from them not to make bigger moves that takes on a big contract when we need super talent.

Edited July 16, 2010 by nbasuperstar40

[GameTime]

smh at this idiotic nonsense...and what happens if Shaq says "F this I'm retiring"

[coachx]

Putting a little too much stock in a 38 year old guy whose obvious motivation right now is maintaining his lifestyle not advancing a team to a ring.

If this is 31 year old Shaq, I'd throw half the team at him, even for a 34 year old Shaq but at 38 with his mileage and his asking price, hell no. We've seen how Shaq and desperate teams have worked out the past 3 years.

There is a difference. The Hawks would not expect Shaq to be a $20 mill a year player, nor would they expect him to start. We just want him for 50 games a year off the bench and to be a BEAST in the playoffs off the bench. Heck Marvin dissapears for at least 30 games a year any way. I have compared him to Derrick McKey since his eary years. A talented player who dissapears too often considering his talent.

Entirely different expectations levels.

Edited July 16, 2010 by coachx