ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 This is a once and a lifetime opportunity to wipe Joe's massive contract off the books for the season, I say jump on it. He is a very good player but he has obviously been declining every season. His numbers just weren't there this past season, and he is a terrible leader. Now if we do in fact amnesty Joe the Hawks will receive around $7-12 Million extra in cap room this season. Allowing us to actually sign a decent bench. This is the opportunity the Hawks need to rebuild. They can still trade Smoove, because as we all know he wants out and the whole "D12 to Atlanta" rumor will never happen. Hawks can go out and trade Smoove and Marvin on draft night to trade up and also get some good role players in return. By doing this the Hawks can rebuild and still compete at the same time. They will still have Horford and Teague to build around and some key pieces and draft picks accumulated from trades. Also, they will have around $16-21 Mill in cap to go out and obtain extras. If the Hawks want to be contenders this will be their only opportunity to so... At least until Joe's contract is up. *For those of you that do not know about the amnesty, here is a link. http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2011/11/amnesty-options-for-atlanta-hawks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 ??? O_o???It's funny how you say it so calm. Amnesty Joe Johnson and trade Josh Smith for "Bench and Role players." lmbo!As much as I want to Amnesty Joe, I don't want to do it for a bench or role player. That might be our only hope though...smhIt's going to be hard to use the amnesty on Joe and still get a better player than him because of the limit cap money we might (10mil - 12mil) still have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 We would be fools to amnesty him this season. Please see the pinned thread about our options and how that wont help us this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) If it's one thing the summer dynasty draft has taught me is there is a lack of quality depth at shooting guard in the league right now. No sense in using the amnesty on Joe this year and getting bench players to fill that void. Edited June 25, 2012 by JayBirdHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Joe isn't worth the time or money. I'm not saying do it for just for role players but also at least one good starter to take his place. I do see your point on waiting to do so but we need this cancer known as Joe off this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Because Joe obviously isn't the superstar that the Hawks predicted. He is the only logical player to amnesty other than Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag82 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Because Joe obviously isn't the superstar that the Hawks predicted. He is the only logical player to amnesty other than Marvin.But not necessarily logical this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Who cares may as well put all the chips in at once. This team isn't going anywhere anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 25, 2012 Admin Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 It makes absolute no sense to amesty Joe. He is not a superstar no but he is an all star quality player. He is our most consistent player who contributes night in and night out.We are still on the hook for his salary and we are not going to spend it on anyone elseHe is the first real free agent that came here since Deke so its not like other FA's are clamoring to be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Joe contributes every night? Did you watch any games this past season? He played like a scrub only getting 8-10 points in a lot of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 25, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Joe contributes every night? Did you watch any games this past season? He played like a scrub only getting 8-10 points in a lot of gamesWhose troll account is this? Joe was an All Star this year and played well except when he was hurt. You don't amnesty him now. You do it in two or three years when he's clearly not the same player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted June 25, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutombolievable Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Let's play a game. Name all of the shooting guards in the eastern conference to play in the all-star game for the last 6 years. I don't see how using the amnesty on him makes sense. Who is it that you would rather have starting at the 2? Dwyane Wade and then who? Edited June 25, 2012 by Mutombolievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I wonder if the OP realizes you still must pay Joe if you amensty him. There are very few franchises, if any, who would be ok with paying a player who is not on the roster that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 25, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Whose troll account is this? Joe was an All Star this year and played well except when he was hurt. You don't amnesty him now. You do it in two or three years when he's clearly not the same player.I actually looked it up. Joe played in 60 regular season games and he scored 10 points or less seven times in sixty games. Three of those seven games he scored 10.So this troll saying he scored "10 points or less in a lot of games" is true for a staggering 4.2 percentage of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandauwalker Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I was previously a big believer in the amnesty, but here is the logic behind it.If we do it early, the franchise will have to pay a LOT less when he is not on the roster. If we wait too long, we will be absolutely screwed. It all depends on if we can put together a competitive squad now without Joe.I'm undecided on whether it is a good option or not, but do not think it is near as ludicrous as most on here do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 25, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I was previously a big believer in the amnesty, but here is the logic behind it.If we do it early, the franchise will have to pay a LOT less when he is not on the roster. If we wait too long, we will be absolutely screwed. It all depends on if we can put together a competitive squad now without Joe.I'm undecided on whether it is a good option or not, but do not think it is near as ludicrous as most on here do.How much do you think one of the teams under the cap is going to bid for Joe? That is probably the best starting place for any discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrinson Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 This actually makes sense. Joe averaged 18 ppg. He gets paid way too much to average 18 points. Right now we are just making it to the playoffs and getting to no farther than the second round. I would rather have one or 2 bad years and get better and go to the eastern conference finals or farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLscrubLove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Let's also remember that the only reason Joe is a consistent Allstar SG is because there aren't really any other great gaurds in the east. Also, everyone outside of ATL is going to vote for Joe because he is supposed to be the leader of the team, they just don't know how bad he really is. But yes I just read up on the amnesty thing more so it will definitely be better if we wait at least until next season. I didn't realize the amnesty will extend past this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Guys cool it on the troll remarks. Everyone are entitled to their opinion. Lets try and respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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