DrReality Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 If we get Jennings Budz has his work cut out. Cuz he needs coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted July 8, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 With Korver, Lou, Horford, Jenkins hopefully Jennings doesn't have to jack up a lot of outside shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I really appreciate this forum's support of its players but sometimes I think we over value our own. Teague is an example of that. So was Zaza. I have no problem sticking up for my guys though. To use Dolfan's "a tiger can't change its stripes" analogy, a player can't magically grow a heart either. Ill advised shot selection seems like an easier thing to fix than a player's attitude/heart. Pick him apart all you want but BJ is very talented. But again, wtf do I know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 The take-home to me through all of this is that Ferry really seems to value score-first PGs. I would agree that Jennings is still young enough that his ceiling is higher than Teague's... with a bit of seasoning, Jennings could be another Iverson... but the problem is that the debate can't end there b/c where Jennings has stagnated, Teague has been trending upward over the last couple of seasons. I agree with those who would take Jennings over Ellis, but if this is how Ferry wants to play things, I'd probably prefer to trade Teague for some other needed asset and bring Mo Williams in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 With Korver, Lou, Horford, Jenkins hopefully Jennings doesn't have to jack up a lot of outside shots. Not sure that "have to" is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Why is everyone trying to get rid of Lou Williams already? Hell, didn't DF go out and get him just last year? And whats the big deal? Is Teague that much better than Jennings, IF AT ALL?? At least BJ has heart, can finish at the rim, and can catch and shoot. Teague has very little heart, cant finish at the rim, (but maybe twice in a season), and has to have his feet set before he shoots. BJ was a lottery pick for a reason guys. Still has tons of potential. Not sayin that Jeff doesn't. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Why is everyone trying to get rid of Lou Williams already? Hell, didn't DF go out and get him just last year? And whats the big deal? Is Teague that much better than Jennings, IF AT ALL?? At least BJ has heart, can finish at the rim, and can catch and shoot on the move. Teague has very little heart, cant finish at the rim, (but maybe twice in a season), and has to have his feet set before he takes a shot. BJ was a lottery pick for a reason guys. Still has tons of potential. Not sayin that Jeff doesn't. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I will take Jennings over Teague every day of the week. Teague is too passive while Jennings looks to attack the rim at all times. We could surround him with 4 above average shooters and he would wreak havoc on defenses. Sure, he has some faults, but I would rather have a pg that looks to take what he wants instead of settles for what he is given. Jennings has star qualities and I think he would be a good fit in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanHighlightFilm Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 i think most of you are overvaluing Teague..He's been my fav player ever since we drafted him out of wake forest but even i can see that jennings is a better player. WAY better option than Ellis and with the right coaching could be an all star. He's a guy that if we kept a round for 2 or 3 years that i might actually buy a jersey for. well known guy around the league and could possibly boost popularity too(more than Teague would) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Saw this tweeted in the side column: The idea of the Kings not re-signing Tyreke Evans, then moving contracts to give Monta Ellis a big deal cracks me up. ... which made me crack a smile as well. Then, I had this additional thought that made me make an audible chuckle... What if this ended up with us getting Jennings and Cousins... think Bud might call Pop up and ask to go back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 To the guy that compared Ellis to Harden. Jennings is closer. 3's and layups..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Jennings is a superior option FOR us than Ellis. I wouldn't say Ellis is a better option than Jennings in general but for us, Jennings is a superior option. For the Bucks, Teague is a better option. He doesn't need any personnel, his impact will be the same if he starts no matter what. That's average to above average. Jennings had a negative value with Milwaukee last year. With us, he might be an All Star. Just a different personnel grouping is all. I want us to keep Lou Williams but we got bench depth as it is with Milsap. Sorry, I don't want Milsap starting next to Al. We still need a center. What about Samuel Dalembert from Mil as well. He is a UFA and he had some good games with Milwaukee when he was healthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Sz3nEC4KI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Jennings has superior ballhanding and pick-n-roll skills... no question. He always has swagger to him and his game and will be a fan favorite if we get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 If I figured this correctly, the Hawks could go over the cap to get Jenning if he's aquired via sign and trade with Miwaukee since we're essentially re-signing one of our own. If our current obligations are: Horford $12.0Millsap $9.5Korver $5.3Williams $5.3Carroll $2.5Jenkins $1.3Schröder $1.3Cunningham $1.2Mack $0.9Scott $0.8Muscala $0.5FA center like Bynum on short deal? $12.0 TOTAL $52.1 million for 12 players Add Jennings in at $8-$9 million would put you over the cap, but if it's a Teague for Jenning straight swap, I'm pretty sure we can go over the cap as long as we meet the amount requirements to satisfy for teams being over the cap. We could go a cheaper, short-term route for a big man like Dalembert and save that money though too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I want Mbah if we can get him. He really improved his jump shot. I think he can be our Bruce Bowen at the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Give Milwaukee Jeff, Zaza, and Lou for Jennings, Luc Richard, and Dalembert is a win for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Fwiw and if I remember correctly, Mbah was supposed to be part of that Smoove deadline deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLnightwing Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 God please let Samuel Dalembert be a part of this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 8, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Sup brings up a good point I hadn't thought of... ZaZa seemingly could be included in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 TeagueThornton (SnT Ellis)DefinoIlaysovaSanders ZazaLouHensonothers Hawks JenningsKorverLuc RichardHorfordDaly MilsapJenkinsCarrollMike S.Schröder unless we keep him overseas I like our squad. Size, length, shooting, bench depth, and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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