Camouflage Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Reportedly, their are already a number of teams interested in Ivan the Great again. He has stepped up his game over-seas. I wonder if this option was considered before bringing over Muscala? Would it be a good idea?http://fansided.com/2014/02/28/nba-rumors-ivan-johnson-close-return/ Edited March 1, 2014 by Camouflage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 There are actually a number of teams signing lesser talented players instead of signing Ivan. He's just got too much of a temper for teams to give him a shot. If it weren't for Mike Scott I'd be in favor of it but I don't want to take minutes away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hed kill chemistry. Read up on why he was waived from China. Plus hes not impressing in his workouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Seems like he's been close to a return for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyEye Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Muscala makes more sense for me, Ivan isn't great he is solid something i hope Muscala can offer too. Muscala have still room to progress, and in the current situation it isn't bad to develope talent for the future so the time on court is spent well even when we miss the PO(maybe Ivan is a little bit stronger right now, but both ain't difference maker) Playing in china/korea isn't really a test for player with NBA ambition and in a such situation it is hard to work hard on training etc.(not sure about the training conditions over there to make it worse) Ivan advantage over Muscala for me is that he is cheaper(no buyout). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camouflage Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Hed kill chemistry. Read up on why he was waived from China. Plus hes not impressing in his workoutsFrom the linked article it says he finished the regular season. It didn't say he was waived, unless I'm missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 http://hawkshoop.com/report-ivan-johnson-waived-by-zhejiang/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted March 1, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Ivan is a head case period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Reportedly, their are already a number of teams interested in Ivan the Great again. He has stepped up his game over-seas. I wonder if this option was considered before bringing over Muscala? Would it be a good idea?http://fansided.com/2014/02/28/nba-rumors-ivan-johnson-close-return/ If Ferry wanted him he would have signed him before. Ivan is not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I love Ivan and he's got some talent and we're really thin in the frontcourt due to injuries. He's a headcase but I'd take the risk and just cut him if it's really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ivan is a head case period. Yeah...sad to say ^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camouflage Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Ivan is a head case period.Maybe. But their are a lot of "head cases" in this league that contribute to their respective teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You guys are pissing me off today....Maybe I'm on my soapbox, but hell.... We're on a free fall...Ivan didn't nothing but play his ass off for us, and he played HARD. I'd welcome him back in a heartbeat considering our injury situation...Plus energy.... we look like a bunch of dead bodies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 You guys are pissing me off today....Maybe I'm on my soapbox, but hell.... We're on a free fall...Ivan didn't nothing but play his ass off for us, and he played HARD. I'd welcome him back in a heartbeat considering our injury situation...Plus energy.... we look like a bunch of dead bodies....Which is a good thing for us. If we can lose every game from here on out while developing our young guys we will be in great shape. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hahaha...I'm not sure how to reply to that Dolf, whether to tank or not....but to call Ivan a head case struck a nerve as a Hawks fan. That dude left everything on the floor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hahaha...I'm not sure how to reply to that Dolf, whether to tank or not....but to call Ivan a head case struck a nerve as a Hawks fan. That dude left everything on the floor....Agreed he's not a head case and he played his butt off for us. I just don't want him getting in the way of our stealth tank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I feel really bad for saying this but I couldn't care less what happens for the rest of this season. If we win cool, if we lose cool. It sucks watching a team give 110% effort, just to see them lose. It also sucks not being able to root for them wholeheartedly because I know deep down that losing in the short-term can help us in the long run. I guess I'd be more vested in the team if we saw Schröder (and now Muscala) play more, and Lou play less, but that will come with time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I feel really bad for saying this but I couldn't care less what happens for the rest of this season. If we win cool, if we lose cool. It sucks watching a team give 110% effort, just to see them lose. It also sucks not being able to root for them wholeheartedly because I know deep down that losing in the short-term can help us in the long run. I guess I'd be more vested in the team if we saw Schröder (and now Muscala) play more, and Lou play less, but that will come with time. I would root for them and love them the rest of the season if they give 110% effort and lose. It's when they start giving little effort and lose that will bother me. Though I don't see that being an issue with this group of guys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I would root for them and love them the rest of the season if they give 110% effort and lose. It's when they start giving little effort and lose that will bother me. Though I don't see that being an issue with this group of guys. I don't think it's fair to cheer them on, yet you want them to lose honorably. Then again if we're heading into the lottery, we might as well head off in style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I don't think it's fair to cheer them on, yet you want them to lose honorably. Then again if we're heading into the lottery, we might as well head off in style. I want the young guys to get as much playing time as possible and I want them to lose games that they fought hard in. I know that sounds bad but I want us to get the best possible player we can to add to this team as we'll have some money and good players to for next years team and we can be right back in the thick of the playoff hunt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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