Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) That's why you put in your bigger defenders like Carroll to match up better in case of a switch. Budenholzer is another Bobby Cox. I've seen almost nothing impressive from him in these playoffs. Another regular season coach... Just like what the Hawks had before. Nothing has changed. Edited May 10, 2015 by Hotlanta1981 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakin Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Carroll took himself out. This "blame bud" stuff is childish and absurd, but not unexpected from some of you. Edited May 10, 2015 by Dakin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlhawks1 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) You never foul with 10 seconds left when the other team is in the bonus and the game is tied. No one does this. I don't even understand the logic behind this at all. This is about the FEEL of the game. Thats what a head coach, ESPECIALLY in basketball, is suppose to have. Bud letting his bench STAY in the game was the right move, THEN, he went back to his starters by bringing Korver non shooting self back into the game, then, compounded it by not throwing conventional strategy aside and letting his BENCH take the last shot. I wouldnt have cared if Washington made both free throws. The feel of the game is you want your bench, which has SHOCKED the Wizards at the other end, to have the last shot with a 3 point attempt. The hawks bench earned that. No one wouldve questioned bud doing that. Edited May 10, 2015 by atlhawks1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I can't believe we came back from 21 points down with 9 minutes in the 4th to tie the game and then let Pierce take the last shot for them. You triple team him if necessary to make sure he can't take the shot. Unreal they let him get that shot off. Budenholzer is clearly the greatest rip off coach of all time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwentdown2GA Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I wanna get excited about the comeback. I wanna believe that we are finally playing to our offensive abilities. Unfortunately, all that happened with our main guys on the bench. It's hard to know what to take from that 4th quarter. I think that Dennis has to play more. Maybe run with two pg's for an extended time. We need to get to the rim more since our shots aren't dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 10, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) So we'd have an outlet in case of a steal. He's the fastest player on the floor so it makes sense. Dennis played fantastic defense, the best that could be asked of him in that situation. Bazemore is always slow at decision making, so I think DMC should have been in instead of Bazemore. Lineups aside, a double was absolutely necessary after the absolutely necessary switch. Dude...You don't worry about trying to get a steal under those circumstances, you just want to get a stop because the play is most like going to be an iso play with a last second shot. You need length to contest shots! Edited May 10, 2015 by Peoriabird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Carroll took himself out. This "blame bud" stuff is childish and absurd, but not unexpected from some of you. "Carroll took himself out." I'm sorry... But I thought the coach decided who plays and who doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member SalvorMallow Posted May 10, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 "Carroll took himself out." I'm sorry... But I thought the coach decided who plays and who doesn't play. Tweet Added - Refresh Page to see it live!If you don't see the Tweet here AFTER REFRESHING PAGE, then it wasn't entered correctly. Please edit and try again.Important: If the Tweet doesn't load, please refresh the page before editing the Tweet as it may need to refresh to parse properly Dude...You don't worry about trying to get a steal under those circumstances, you just want to get a stop because most like going to be an iso play with a last second shot. You need length to contest shots! We didn't need the length, we needed a trap. Have Schröder in is risky, but the play went perfectly, except for the LATE double by Baze. Watch the replay: http://streamable.com/80lm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member SalvorMallow Posted May 10, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 This is about the FEEL of the game. Thats what a head coach, ESPECIALLY in basketball, is suppose to have. Bud letting his bench STAY in the game was the right move, THEN, he went back to his starters by bringing Korver non shooting self back into the game, then, compounded it by not throwing conventional strategy aside and letting his BENCH take the last shot. I wouldnt have cared if Washington made both free throws. The feel of the game is you want your bench, which has SHOCKED the Wizards at the other end, to have the last shot with a 3 point attempt. The hawks bench earned that. No one wouldve questioned bud doing that. You don't stop making the right move because of the "Feel" of something. You make the right move every time and hope for the best. Even if we won the game (Which would be doubtful considering the circumstances), I would be questioning Bud for making such a reckless decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 We didn't need the length, we needed a trap. Have Schröder in is risky, but the play went perfectly, except for the LATE double by Baze. Watch the replay: http://streamable.com/80lm He couldn't play one more play? I find that hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member SalvorMallow Posted May 10, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 He couldn't play one more play? I find that hard to believe. Considering you have no basis for making that assumption, I'll trust DeMarre's word over yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlhawks1 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 You don't stop making the right move because of the "Feel" of something. You make the right move every time and hope for the best. Even if we won the game (Which would be doubtful considering the circumstances), I would be questioning Bud for making such a reckless decision. The FEEL is why bud let his bench STAY in the game after they brought the Hawks back. The FEEL shouldve let the bench take the last shot. Paul Pierce and the Wizards were very happy they got to take that last shot after being shell shocked by the Hawks bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Considering you have no basis for making that assumption, I'll trust DeMarre's word over yours. Was something broken? I mean, it's one more play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member SalvorMallow Posted May 10, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The FEEL is why bud let his bench STAY in the game after they brought the Hawks back. The FEEL shouldve let the bench take the last shot. Paul Pierce and the Wizards were very happy they got to take that last shot after being shell shocked by the Hawks bench. It wasn't the feel that made him leave the bench in. The starters were completely ineffective for the entire game and the bench had built up momentum like a freight train. All the stats of the game point to leaving the bench in at that point. But why am I arguing with someone who thinks we could/should trade for Dwight Howard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 It wasn't the feel that made him leave the bench in. The starters were completely ineffective for the entire game and the bench had built up momentum like a freight train. All the stats of the game point to leaving the bench in at that point. But why am I arguing with someone who thinks we could/should trade for Dwight Howard? Somebody still wants Howard? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlhawks1 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) It wasn't the feel that made him leave the bench in. The starters were completely ineffective for the entire game and the bench had built up momentum like a freight train. All the stats of the game point to leaving the bench in at that point. But why am I arguing with someone who thinks we could/should trade for Dwight Howard? I see Memphis out there giving Golden State a hard time because they got a FRONT COURT that can dominate, unlike the Hawks....... Anthony Davis dominated the Hawks the last time the Hawks played New Orleans. Memphis bigs dominated the Hawks the last time they played. Lopez running wild up in Brooklyn, Gortat looking like Patrick Ewing mixed with Tim Duncan today. Horford and Milsap are both too small for their positions. Even Bud knows that and i GUARANTEE you they gonna look to break up this Horford, Milsap front court. Its coming, even if it means giving Tavares a shot at making the roster next year. Edited May 10, 2015 by atlhawks1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 10, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) lol...no wonder they lost...... You found a typo and have no response to the substance of the post? Every shooter in the nba shoots less than 50% from 3. Every shooter who would handle the ball in that situation shoots a ton higher from the ft line. That puts us in a position to lose the majority of the time while a contested iso play misses the sizable majority of the time. They don't miss 100% of the time, though, which means we could still get unlucky and lose in regulation. That is what happened. You live with that. The real problem is letting a WAS team without Wall get that lead. We should win by a good margin against this Was team if we want to contend. Edited May 10, 2015 by AHF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Moderators Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Had to bail for a play right when Al went out hobbling, and thought to myself, "How can this game end any worse?" lol Still, great job, bench! Glad to have you back! ~lw3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 To be honest i've always felt we overacheived with this being the second year under Coach Bud. Irregardless of how I feel, f*** this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spursfanpeacemaker Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 To be honest i've always felt we overacheived with this being the second year under Coach Bud. Irregardless of how I feel, f*** this team. Hey dont give up yet, i think Hawks getting to many expectations including winning a champion this year just because they got 60 wins and had a 19 winning streak this season. Even if hawks get eliminated in the playoffs, they can keep continue building and improving from this season to next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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