IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Here is Lebron after his miracle weight loss in the off season. Yes you guys do remember right? Leaner more agile Lebron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Now here is Leroid doing his best Ronnie Coleman impersonation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Can anyone dispute this guy is juicing with something? He is at least 40lbs heavier. I would guess more fifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Steriods do not help you in basketball. Basketball is a game of skill, dribbling, shooting, passing, etc. At the pre draft workouts KevinDurant could not bench 175 even one time, and his timed speed was terrible, yet he became one of the best players in the NBA.Why? Because he is tall and he can shoot. Thats what matters in basketball. Steph Curry would not become better if he took steroids, in fact too much added muscle could hinder his flexibility. That is a game of skill, not brute strench or anaerobic power, this not the hundred meter dash. Focus on PEDs is just because of drug stigma, and 40 years of aniti drug propaganda, and the baffling decision in the 80s to make PEDs a controlled substance. Edited May 26, 2015 by bleachkit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyMo Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 umm, lebron could hypothetically rely on steroids because his game is based on driving and over-powering people. hes not a shooter at all. he is rajan rondo with a body that can he score with. take away his roids and thats what he is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Steriods do not help you in basketball. Basketball is a game of skill, dribbling, shooting, passing, etc. At the pre draft workouts KevinDurant could not bench 175 even one time, and his timed speed was terrible, yet he became one of the best players in the NBA.Why? Because he is tall and he can shoot. Thats what matters in basketball. Steph Curry would not become better if he took steroids, in fact too much added muscle could hinder his flexibility. That is a game of skill, not brute strench or anaerobic power, this not the hundred meter dash. Focus on PEDs is just because of drug stigma, and 40 years of aniti drug propaganda, and the baffling decision in the 80s to make PEDs a controlled substance. Wtf? Really? You still buying all that MLB ESPN propaganda? Here is the truth for you bro. Steroids help everything about your physical performance , no matter the sport. To be faster , stronger and quicker recovery. If they do not help then why is Lebron so dependent upon them. There is not a human on this planet that can add the amount of mass that Leroid did in just two or three months. Nobody! The proof is there in those post. You can choose to stick your head in the sand if you wish. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 umm, lebron could hypothetically rely on steroids because his game is based on driving and over-powering people. hes not a shooter at all. he is rajan rondo with a body that can he score with. take away his roids and thats what he is It is impossible to add that much muscle in such a short span. There is no hypothetical. It is fckn obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Steriods do not help you in basketball. Basketball is a game of skill, dribbling, shooting, passing, etc. At the pre draft workouts KevinDurant could not bench 175 even one time, and his timed speed was terrible, yet he became one of the best players in the NBA.Why? Because he is tall and he can shoot. Thats what matters in basketball. Steph Curry would not become better if he took steroids, in fact too much added muscle could hinder his flexibility. That is a game of skill, not brute strench or anaerobic power, this not the hundred meter dash. Focus on PEDs is just because of drug stigma, and 40 years of aniti drug propaganda, and the baffling decision in the 80s to make PEDs a controlled substance. I agree being all swole isn't necessarily good for a basketball player, however, there are other benefits to using HGH which could certainly help. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathgh.htm HGH promotes and increases the synthesis of new protein tissues, such as in muscle recovery or repair. This is the way new muscle is built. Recent research suggests its involvement in the metabolism of body fat and its conversion to energy sources. Tests were conducted in obese people, and medical use in treating obesity was proven beyond a doubt. Some pros have used GH as a way of maintaining and increasing lean mass while dieting for years. It improves the sleeping pattern, makes for fewer unintended awakenings and betters REM-stage sleep. HGH produces more energy Improves the quality and duration of heart and kidneys Also what @WillyMo said. I don't agree with the rondo comparison, but being able to build/maintain strength throughout the season is immensely helpful. Disclaimer: {No, no one is saying he's not a great player, so save that nonsense for another thread.} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 It is impossible to add that much muscle in such a short span. There is no hypothetical. It is fckn obvious Nah, I totally believe he added all that muscle during the season when most other dudes actually lose weight. He are supernatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Why not just allow PEDs? If something helps you gain and keep strength then allow players to use it if they choose. The risks are grossly exaggerrated. Most of the horror strories are from doses hundreds of times greater than the appropriate dose. Tylenol can kill you if the dose is high enough. If steroids were a surgery it would be hailed a marvel of medern medicine, but because it is a drug, an "drugs are bad" they are unfaily and wrongly demonized. PED stigma is just a holdover from the 1980's when they were made controlled substances during the antidrug heyday, along with life sentences for non violent drug crimes, and other absurdities. Athletes should be alowed to use PEDs under a doctors supervision. Dont give that garbage about being "natural". Taking a tendon from my thigh and putting it in my elbow is not natural either, but about every other pitcher in baseball get Tommy John surgery. Its time for a more progressive scientific way of looking at drugs, not based in stigma and the politics of fear, but based in objective science. Edited May 26, 2015 by bleachkit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Why not just allow PEDs? If something helps you gain and keep strength then allow players to use it if they choose. The risks are grossly exaggerrated. Most of the horror strories are from doses hundreds of times greater than the appropriate dose. Tylenol can kill you if the dose is high enough. If steroids were a surgery it would be hailed a marvel of medern medicine, but because it is a drug, an "drugs are bad" they are unfaily and wrongly demonized. PED stigma is just a holdover from the 1980's when they were made controlled substances during the antidrug heyday, along with life sentences for non violent drug crimes, and other absurdities. Athletes should be alowed to use PEDs under a doctors supervision. Dont give that garbage about being "natural". Taking a tendon from my thigh and putting it in my elbow is not natural either, but about every other pitcher in baseball get Tommy John surgery. Its time for a more progressive scientific way of looking at drugs, not based in stigma and the politics of fear, but based in objective science. I agree 100% on juice being demonized but that is not issue at hand here. The issue is Lebron giving himself an athletic advantage over his competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Disclaimer: {No, no one is saying he's not a great player, so save that nonsense for another thread.} Barry Bonds was a no-brainer HOF before he started juicing. He was a legend while juicing. It is obvious that PEDs help any athlete. If you allow them, you basically mandate that everyone take them. As long as there are players who aren't juicing, their careers will be hurt because they will have a competitive disadvantage. The great PED scandal for the NBA has yet to come. It is inevitable that it will come at some point. We've seen them in every other sport and there is no reason to think that they are a huge deal for track, cycling, football, baseball, etc. but aren't a factor for basketball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Barry Bonds was a no-brainer HOF before he started juicing. He was a legend while juicing. It is obvious that PEDs help any athlete. If you allow them, you basically mandate that everyone take them. As long as there are players who aren't juicing, their careers will be hurt because they will have a competitive disadvantage. The great PED scandal for the NBA has yet to come. It is inevitable that it will come at some point. We've seen them in every other sport and there is no reason to think that they are a huge deal for track, cycling, football, baseball, etc. but aren't a factor for basketball. Agree with all but the bolded statement. The NBA is run on a steady diet of willful ignorance and, unlike in baseball, there isn't a big enough salary discrepancy between the cheaters and the non-cheaters to cause any of them to make a stink. Other players won't talk about another guy's endorsement $$$ for fear of being branded a "hater". But, if the salaries were significantly higher for cheaters, they'd suddenly find their collective manhoods and put a stop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lebron Dwight Blake Rose Wade Bledsoe If I had to guess....possibly others...just can't think of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agree with all but the bolded statement. The NBA is run on a steady diet of willful ignorance and, unlike in baseball, there isn't a big enough salary discrepancy between the cheaters and the non-cheaters to cause any of them to make a stink. Other players won't talk about another guy's endorsement $$$ for fear of being branded a "hater". But, if the salaries were significantly higher for cheaters, they'd suddenly find their collective manhoods and put a stop to it. I think it is inevitable. At some point some rival will be resentful ala Lance or some trainer/supplier will get disgruntled and decide to make a ton of money doing a tell-all or some former star will be ticked off because he feels slighted ala Jose Canseco. It is coming. The only question is when. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted May 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Tiger Woods had to of been on steroids too... in a sport that is more about technique and touch than strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Tiger Woods had to of been on steroids too... in a sport that is more about technique and touch than strength. He was. If you think steroids down not give an edge in golf you are sadly mistaken. Power and club speed is a big part of the golf game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted May 26, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) He was. If you think steroids down not give an edge in golf you are sadly mistaken. Power and club speed is a big part of the golf game. People always forget the most imortant thing about PEDs is the FACT that they reduce your recovery time. In thoery PEDs would allow Tiger to practice more, which in turn makes him a better golfer. For a NBA player it may not be all about practice, but I know it would help a great deal for game 2 of a back-to-back. Edited May 26, 2015 by NineOhTheRino 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 What exactly was Lebron doing at the end of the 3rd quarter? I'm guessing he was mocking our guys struggles to make layups. http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/22/8647673/lebron-james-acts-like-a-complete-doofus-at-the-end-of-the-third Biggest douche in all of sports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 What exactly was Lebron doing at the end of the 3rd quarter? I'm guessing he was mocking our guys struggles to make layups.http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/22/8647673/lebron-james-acts-like-a-complete-doofus-at-the-end-of-the-third Biggest douche in all of sports. Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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