Draft Redo #1.

[Diesel]

If you had a chance to redo 2019 NBA draft....   What would you change about the Atlanta Hawks Selections?   Or  Would you keep it all the same?

 

#	Team	Player	H	W	P	School	C
1	New Orleans	Zion Williamson	6-6	280	PF	Duke	Fr.
2	Memphis	Ja Morant	6-3	175	PG	Murray St.	So.
3	New York	RJ Barrett	6-7	210	SG	Duke	Fr.
4	*Atlanta	DeAndre Hunter	6-7	225	SF/PF	Virginia	So.
5	*Cleveland	Darius Garland	6-2	175	PG	Vanderbilt	Fr.
6	Minnesota	Jarrett Culver	6-6	195	SG	Texas Tech	So.
7	Chicago	Coby White	6-5	190	PG/SG	North Carolina	Fr.
8	New Orleans	Jaxson Hayes	6-11	220	PF/C	Texas	Fr.
9	Washington	Rui Hachimura	6-8	235	PF	Gonzaga	Jr.
10	*Atlanta	Cameron Reddish	6-8	210	SG/SF	Duke	Fr.
11	Phoenix	Cameron Johnson	6-8	205	SF	North Carolina	Sr.
12	Charlotte	PJ Washington	6-8	230	PF	Kentucky	So.
13	Miami	Tyler Herro	6-6	195	SG	Kentucky	Fr.
14	*Boston	Romeo Langford	6-6	210	SG	Indiana	Fr.
15	Detroit	Sekou Doumbouya	6-9	230	SF/PF	France	Intl.
16	Orlando	Chuma Okeke	6-8	235	SF/PF	Auburn	So.
17	*New Orleans	Nickeil Alexander-Walker	6-5	205	SG	Virginia Tech	So.
18	Indiana	Goga Bitadze	6-11	250	C	Rep. of Georgia	Intl.
19	San Antonio	Luka Samanic	6-11	230	PF	Croatia	Intl.
20	*Philadelphia	Matisse Thybulle	6-6	200	SG/SF	Washington	Sr.
21	Memphis	Brandon Clarke	6-8	210	PF/C	Gonzaga	Jr.
22	Boston	Grant Williams	6-7	240	PF	Tennessee	Jr.
23	*Oklahoma Cty	Darius Bazley	6-9	210	SF/PF	USA	N/A
24	*Phoenix	Ty Jerome	6-5	195	PG	Virginia	Jr.
25	Portland	Nassir Little	6-6	225	SF	North Carolina	Fr.
26	*Cleveland	Dylan Windler	6-7	195	SG/SF	Belmont	Sr.
27	*LA Clippers	Mfiondu Kabengele	6-10	255	PF/C	Florida St.	So.
28	Golden St.	Jordan Poole	6-5	190	PG/SG	Michigan	So.
29	*San Antonio	Keldon Johnson	6-6	215	SG/SF	Kentucky	Fr.
30	*Cleveland	Kevin Porter	6-5	215	SG/SF	USC	Fr.

[Diesel]

Draft Redo Question of the week....

 

What was the worst Draft mistake that the Hawks ever made?

1.  Marvin Williams over Chris Paul?

2.  Josh Childress over Andre Iguodala?

3.  Andriene Payne over Nikola Jokic  (actually there were a whole slew of players here)?

4.  Lucas Nogueira over Rudy Gobert?

5.  Trading Pau Gasol for Shareef?

6.  Trading Luke for Trae?

[Jdawgflow]

Marvin 

[ShooterSays]

Stay at #8 and take Cam
Take Herro with the Mavs pick at #10
Clarke at #17 I guess?

 

[NBASupes]

I would do the same thing but flip the order of Cam and Hunter. I still feel the need of Hunter is worth it at 10 but Cam is a legit top 5 pick. 
 

To me, just based on what I saw as rookies

1. Zion - Zion in his short period was just insane. His value on offense was elite. 

2. Ja - His value wasn't as good offensively as Trae as a rookie but his defense was superior. I think he will be special. 

3. R.J. - I felt R.J. went to the worst situation in the draft and it showed. If he went to Boston, we would be talking about how special he is. I am still extremely high on him. 

4. Cam - He had a tremendous 2nd half after a tremendously bad 1st half. He has to put it all together like Trae did in year 2. If he does, he's likely in a class with Ja and Zion. 

5. Herro - Clearly a top tier scoring guard. Someone who MIA should keep moving forward. His defense is better than people think. He can be a very good player down the road. 

After that, Clarke, Coby, Goga, Rui, then Hunter for me. 

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

Draft Redo Question of the week....

 

What was the worst Draft mistake that the Hawks ever made?

1.  Marvin Williams over Chris Paul?

2.  Josh Childress over Andre Iguodala?

3.  Andriene Payne over Nikola Jokic  (actually there were a whole slew of players here)?

4.  Lucas Nogueira over Rudy Gobert?

5.  Trading Pau Gasol for Shareef?

6.  Trading Luke for Trae?

Why are you asking these questions, outside of 6, the Hawks easily lost all 5, 6 is up in the air. 

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, NBASupes said:

 

Why are you asking these questions, outside of 6, the Hawks easily lost all 5, 6 is up in the air. 

Yeah.. but worse.. Which one was the worst mistake. 

Believe it or not, I say 3. 

[Dejay]

Oh man, I've used tons of bandwidth here railing the Hawks over 1 and 2. Drafting Marvin cost them a HOFer and not only was Iguodala available when they selected a dude who had the shooting mechanics of a 3rd grader but BK also passed over Al Jefferson and Luol Deng as well. That alone changes the course of the franchise during that era, assuming that Joe Johnson still comes here; from eventually becoming a fringe playoff team that really had no real shot come playoff time to one with a lot more firepower and potential. 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, Dejay said:

Oh man, I've used tons of bandwidth here railing the Hawks over 1 and 2. Drafting Marvin cost them a HOFer and not only was Iguodala available when they selected a dude who had the shooting mechanics of a 3rd grader but BK also passed over Al Jefferson and Luol Deng as well. That alone changes the course of the franchise during that era, assuming that Joe Johnson still comes here; from eventually becoming a fringe playoff team that really had no real shot come playoff time to one with a lot more firepower and potential. 

I try not to look back because it's depressing!

[JeffS17]

I don't think I would change our picks, or at a minimum, I don't feel like I know enough about some of these guys yet to want to swap.  I'm assuming we took Hunter at 4 because he had other suitors, or I would agree with Supes that Cam deserves the #4 pick rookie contract.  I think Herro might look a lot different with a different team, so I don't know that I'd want him here necessarily.  I like him though and hope he continues to develop and play well in Miami.

 

RJ is definitely in a bad situation, but I just really don't like his game anyways.  I feel like his best case is being a watered down Melo.  I don't think he's a #1 option type of player and won't shine until he's on a team where he doesn't have to carry the load offensively.

 

[AHF]

Here is my pick:

Jon Koncak over Karl Malone

[Diesel]

I tend to think that the Jon Koncak pick was a favor. 

 

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

I tend to think that the Jon Koncak pick was a favor. 

 

Don't think that would make it any less of a mistake but you've got me curious.  What leads you to conclude that it was a favor?

[Diesel]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

Don't think that would make it any less of a mistake but you've got me curious.  What leads you to conclude that it was a favor?

Well, if memory serves me correctly...  Koncak just missed the death penalty that was handed down at SMU.   It happened right as he was being drafted.  And his agent (Sherwood Blount Jr) was deeply involved in paying students to play.  I believe that it was said that Stan Kasten and Sherwood Blount Jr. had dealings together in real estate and baseball.   My guess is that Blount may have worked out a deal for Koncak that would net Kasten future benefits. Allegedly. 

Because it's mighty odd that 

1.  Koncak was never indicted in the SMU scandal. 

2.  The Hawks took him so high. 

3.   He took a lowball contract with the Hawks upon signing.   I think he signed for 400k - 500k when he did sign with us.   His draft position should have gotten him at least 1 million. 

3b.  The Jon Koncak Contract...   Who negotiated the terms?  Was it Kasten and Blount?  Babcock didn't come in until  93??

It's all just guess work... but I tend to think that that particular move was more about a favor than BPA.