Question of the day 9-8-2023....

[Diesel]

Hollinger has listed the SFs in the East...  He ranked them by PER....  I'm not a believer.

In your opinion... Among Starters at SF...

Is Hunter Top 5,  6 through 10,   11 through 15,   16 though 20 or beyond 20...

 

 

Hollinger Stats - Player Efficiency Rating - Qualified Small Forwards
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
1	Jimmy Butler, MIA	64	33.4	.647	21.6	6.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	27.82	0.0	0.0
2	Jayson Tatum, BOS	74	36.9	.607	14.3	8.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	23.92	0.0	0.0
3	DeMar DeRozan, CHI	74	36.2	.592	18.3	7.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	20.75	0.0	0.0
4	Paul Reed, PHI	69	10.9	.620	8.9	14.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	19.29	0.0	0.0
5	Isaiah Jackson, IND	63	16.5	.595	10.5	10.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	17.67	0.0	0.0
6	Bojan Bogdanovic, DET	59	32.1	.627	11.7	10.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	17.55	0.0	0.0
7	Khris Middleton, MIL	33	24.3	.551	23.8	10.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	17.53	0.0	0.0
8	Cameron Johnson, PHX/BKN	25	30.8	.610	12.4	6.5	0.0	3.2	0.0	8.7	17.25	0.0	0.0
9	Mikal Bridges, PHX/BKN	27	34.2	.607	10.2	7.0	0.0	3.0	0.0	6.9	17.02	0.0	0.0
10	Franz Wagner, ORL	80	32.6	.589	16.6	9.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	16.10	0.0	0.0
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Scottie Barnes, TOR	77	34.8	.524	22.5	9.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	15.68	0.0	0.0
12	O.G. Anunoby, TOR	67	35.6	.586	10.7	10.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.72	0.0	0.0
13	Saddiq Bey, DET/ATL	77	27.6	.564	10.4	6.3	0.0	5.0	0.0	9.5	14.71	0.0	0.0
14	Kyle Kuzma, WSH	64	35.0	.544	14.3	11.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.46	0.0	0.0
15	Jalen Johnson, ATL	70	14.9	.554	17.3	8.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.24	0.0	0.0
16	Derrick Jones Jr., CHI	64	14.0	.597	10.4	7.7	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.87	0.0	0.0
17	Gordon Hayward, CHA	50	31.5	.563	21.5	10.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.64	0.0	0.0
18	Sam Hauser, BOS	80	16.1	.634	14.1	5.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	12.81	0.0	0.0
19	Jordan Nwora, MIL/IND	62	19.2	.561	13.8	10.4	0.0	4.8	0.0	10.4	12.36	0.0	0.0
20	Yuta Watanabe, BKN	58	16.0	.637	14.9	6.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	12.22	0.0	0.0
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Cedi Osman, CLE	77	20.1	.579	15.4	7.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	12.15	0.0	0.0
22	Corey Kispert, WSH	74	28.3	.657	11.4	7.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.61	0.0	0.0
23	De'Andre Hunter, ATL	67	31.7	.563	8.6	7.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.59	0.0	0.0
24	Caleb Martin, MIA	71	29.3	.571	14.7	10.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.46	0.0	0.0
25	Deni Avdija, WSH	76	26.6	.535	21.4	12.5	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.29	0.0	0.0
26	Kevin Knox II, DET/POR	42	14.1	.612	6.2	13.3	0.0	4.0	0.0	10.5	11.24	0.0	0.0
27	Georges Niang, PHI	78	19.4	.610	11.8	8.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.01	0.0	0.0
28	Isaac Okoro, CLE	76	21.8	.614	16.5	8.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.84	0.0	0.0
29	Joe Harris, BKN	74	20.6	.621	17.0	6.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.72	0.0	0.0
	Oshae Brissett, IND	65	16.7	.520	9.5	7.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.72	0.0	0.0
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	Aaron Nesmith, IND	73	24.9	.566	11.9	9.1	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.57	0.0	0.0
32	Danuel House Jr., PHI	56	14.4	.600	15.0	8.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	9.45	0.0	0.0

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[Diesel]

I'm guessing my top 5 are:

Tatum, Butler, Derozen, CJohnson, and Middleton. 

[AHF]

My eyes hurt from that formatting on the phone.  I’d put him middle of the pack among starters, D.

[SalvorMallow]

I'd put him at the low end of the starters by the eye test (cutting him some slack since he plays decent defense). If you look at the stats/analytics, he's closer to the bottom 25% of the East AKA below 20.

[Spud2nique]

I put him 11-15, I counted 12 I’d rather have over him on the list. 
 

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[AHF]

6 hours ago, SalvorMallow said:

I'd put him at the low end of the starters by the eye test (cutting him some slack since he plays decent defense). If you look at the stats/analytics, he's closer to the bottom 25% of the East AKA below 20.

Fair.  I’m giving him more credit than the numbers.  By the numbers he is very low.

[Diesel]

11 hours ago, SalvorMallow said:

I'd put him at the low end of the starters by the eye test (cutting him some slack since he plays decent defense). If you look at the stats/analytics, he's closer to the bottom 25% of the East AKA below 20.

By eye test, I don't rank him so high.. but when grouped among other starters in the east, I don't see a lot that I would say is better.   Looking at the Eastern Conference, he's not that bad. 

[bird_dirt]

If just in the East, then I have him at about 9. 
Butler

Tatum

DeRozan

Middleton

Bridges

Wagner

Barnes

Anunoby

Hunter