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[NBASupes]

Bogi benefitted from a poor 1/2 fit

Edited April 22 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[AHF]

24 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Bogi benefitted from a poor 1/2 fit

In all the +/- numbers that is absolutely the case.  Trae and DJM don't work together.  Trae + Bogi > Trae + DJM.  DJM + Bogi > Trae + DJM.  When the team was healthy, more minutes went to Trae + DJM lineups which didn't work.

Bogi is a good player who also merits nice numbers due to quality play but this is one of those situations where context really matters for on/off and lineups.

[REHawksFan]

On 4/19/2024 at 11:16 AM, AHF said:

I went looking to see if RAPTOR existed anymore and found this page with an alternate version of it:

2023-24 NBA Estimated RAPTOR Player Ratings (and other stats) (substack.com)

In light of that, I thought I would share our team numbers in a variety of statistical categories:

WAR

DJM 6.0

Bogi 5.4

JJ 4.4

Trae 3.7

Bey 2.3

CC 2.2

Hunter 1.4

OO 0.9

Gueye -0.1

Bruno -0.3

W. Matthews -0.3

Kobe -0.3

Patty -0.5

Vit -0.5

G. Mathews -0.5

Trent -0.5

 

ESTIMATED RAPTOR

JJ +1.6

Bogi +1.5

DJM +1.3

Trae +0.9

CC -0.4

Bey -0.5

Hunter -1.0

OO -1.3

Bruno -3.3

G. Mathews -3.4

W. Matthews -3.6

Vit -4.0

Gueye -4.0

Trent -4.8

Kobe -5.0

 

PER

CC 20.7

Trae 20.3

DJM 17.3

OO 16.9

JJ 16.3

Bruno 15.2

Gueye 15.0

Bogi 14.7

Bey 13.1

Hunter 12.7

Kobe 9.1

G. Mathews 8.9

Trent 8.9

Vit 8.4

W. Matthews 8.2

Patty 6.6

 

 

I gotta admit, it's kind of staggering to see Dre rank:

- 7th in WAR on the team

- 7th in RAPTOR

- 10th in PER

- 11th in WS/48

- 10th in BPM

- 13th in VORP

 

I know he adds value that doesn't always show up in advance metrics, but yikes. Hard to imagine that he ranks so poorly on a lottery team that won 36 games and played numerous g leaguers throughout the season. 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

Best 5 man grouping: Offense/Defense Rating

 

 

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