Duncan the greatest PF ever????

[cyman3]

atleast according to CHARLES BARKLEY...

from NBA.COM

"Steve (Visalia, CA): How were you so dominate for a small power forward? And say, if you were still playing as of today, do you think you could handle guys like duncan, garnett, and ben wallace?

Charles Barkley: I like my chances. I think Tim Duncan will probably be the greatest power forward ever. KG is terrific and he should win the MVP. I'm not really worried about other forwards after that."

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wat u guys think? I think DUNCAN certainly has the ability to become the greatest and he sure has consistancy in his game. Win a few more championships and i'll give it to him...

waht about u?

[chillzatl]

any other contender for "best PF ever".

Unless KG starts reeling off a string of championship runs, which just isn't going to happen, Duncan is a lock to go down as "best PF ever".

[Boondocks]

well I'd give KG the "best versatile PF", but TD definitely is as of now the best PF ever.

[chillzatl]

Until KG shows he can lead a team and actually deliver on all that ego, he'll continue to 2nd fiddle to Duncan.

[Boondocks]

Hmm, show me a PF that can bring up the ball, block shots, has a handle, play multiple positions, steal the ball and be a good rebounder while scoring a bulk load of points and I'll name him a versatile PF.

Untill you show me a PF who does this as well as KG I'll call him the best versatile PF ever.

I'm a Wake Forest fan so I'll always think Duncan is the best PF ever regardless

[cyman3]

wat if he played CENTER?

where would he rank with Hakeem, Shaq, Russell?

[chillzatl]

I'm just saying it really doesn't mean anything. There are lots of guys in the league that are versatile. But versatility doesn't = rings.

I agree that he's probably the all-around most gifted player in the league. He has size, speed, handle, plays defense and can score from anywhere on the court.

But until he can win something, he's still 2nd fiddle to TD.

[Diesel]

Duncan the greatest PF in history is a big stretch...

Truth be told, if he was in his right position, Bill Russell would have been the greatest ever. However, I digress.

1. Bob Petit.

2. Elvin Hayes

3. Karl Malone

4. Tim Duncan

5. Hakeem Olajuwaun when Sampson played....

6. Spencer Heywood.

7. Connie Hawkins

8. Kevin Garnett

9. Charles Barkley

10. Tom Chambers

[chillzatl]

Malone belongs above both Petit and Hayes, hands down. Right now, Malone is the greatest PF to ever play the game, period. Forget about reverence for these "players of old". Malone is head and shoulders above everyone else, for now.

[cyman3]

What about MALONES defense tho?

Offensively, yeah- in his prime... he was the GO-TO/MONEY player.

If it wasnt for MJ, he would won a few rings as well...

but back to the subject...

would u rather have a MALONE in his prime or DUNCAN in his prime?

btw, did Malone ever win MVP (for the season)?

[CHORO44]

I'd rather have Duncan in his prime as he is a tougher defensive matchup for teams. Duncan's shot blocking gives him an advantage over Malone. Also Duncan does not need the pick and roll to free him up for shots as he can shoot over most anyone.

Both are great players though. I think people don't give Duncan his due since he doesn't have a lot of flash to his game. Duncan puts on the hard hat and goes to work and never tells anyone that he works hard. I loved it when he destroyed Shaq in last year's playoffs in one on one matchups.

They had no answer for him.

Big Fundamentals...

[chillzatl]

yes i'm a big Karl Malone fan. But I agree, I'd take Duncan too. He's just an amazing player. As great as karl has been, Duncan has been better. plus he's got the hardware to back it up.

[capstone21]

You would rate Tom Chambers ahead of Kevin McKale? I considered Chambers a good player but not a great player.

[Plainview1981]

Honestly, the only thing overrated about Duncan is his

defense. It isn't as good as it should be. We've seen

Reef be able to score at will on him more than one time.

I think Duncan if he only had alittle mean streak....

Malone is better than Duncan. Duncan might have two titles,

but they were in two of the worst finals and possibly playoffs

in NBA history. Last years playoffs was down right terrible

and the east is so weak. Last year the Spurs got ahold of

the Kings and Mavs when argueably their best players were

out. Notice the Spurs BARELY beat a healthy Suns team.

[chickenstanly]

1. Bob Petit.

2. Elvin Hayes

3. Karl Malone

4. Tim Duncan

5. Hakeem Olajuwaun when Sampson played....

6. Spencer Heywood.

7. Connie Hawkins

8. Kevin Garnett

9. Charles Barkley

10.Tom Chambers

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Where's McHale ?

Ask Barkley to compare McHale to Duncan. See

what he says. It would be interesting.

Barkley once said that McHale "was the best

player he ever played against in his life".

Duncan is comparable. The rest need not apply.

Hakeem is a center. Malone has longevity but

nowhere near the shear talent.

If stats were a measuring stick, Russell would

have been considered only "average". You can't

go on stats.

[Plainview1981]

Malone has longevity but

nowhere near the shear talent."

you ever see the guy running up and down the floor?

Amazing, and his passing ability is something that

most PF's don't have. His defense was top notch also.

He'd make mince meat of Kevin McHale probably. I like

the McHale, but Malone's power and ability to run the

floor would beat McHale. Even up and til last year he

was STILL a top 10 PF despite his age. THe fact that

he's been effective so long gives extra credit his

way. McHale was down to 13PPG and 5RPG by age 34

and Malone will still top that now probably at age

40 is it?

"Ask Barkley to compare McHale to Duncan. See

what he says. It would be interesting."

Barkley is an idiot AND he was a poor defender so he

really isn't accurate to get an opinion from.

You can't put everything into stats, but Malone in his

prime is faster, better mobility, better rebounder, better

defender, WAY better passer.

[chillzatl]

He did everything well and produced at an all-star level for his entire career. He could still average 20ppg and nearly 10 boards. Heck he was averaging 15+ as a 4th option.

[Weez]

This is probably the hardest "alltime rank list" to compile. Why? Because until recently, the pf was the enforcer, the guy who did the dirty work...guys like Lambeer, Ben Wallace, Rodman (current examples). They weren't looked at as scorers, nor were they expected to. They were expected to be physical, think Charles Oakley (a few eyars ago).

Now yo'ure comparing the new wave people with those guys, completely different skill sets.

[Diesel]

Malone has no rings.

Pettit took the Hawks to the Championship twice, won it once over the mighty Celtics during a time when teams were not watered down. Plus, he had a career average of like 28/17.

Hayes could do it all. Rebound, score, Pass, and play defense. I think Malone was a very gifted scorer and especially a gifted finisher but it's almost hard to put him over Duncan because he didn't excel at Passing or defense.

[Diesel]

Thanks for reminding me, I forgot about McHale. Of course McHale goes before Chambers. Who can stop the up and under. Chambers had an interesting game though, I think if he had played Shotgun to Bird, he would be mentioned with the greats...