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at the expense of starting a flame war on this board I think the question needs to be asked.

What exactly has the Joe Johnson sign and trade netted us as fans?

the Hawks are 13-26 as of tonight.

feel free to add your comments.


Most importantly, he allowed us to get rid of Diaw.

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Well without him I guess we'd have about 4 to 5 wins. Realistically I think he's getting worn out. Tlue's and Speedy's injuries at the same time have been killer.Still, we are so weak at the center position that I don't know if we are ready for prime time even without the injuries.

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We have two garbage cans at center.

Our starting and backup pgs are hurt.

We have several young wings who have talent but are still learning the game.

Yet someone wants to criticize a guy averaging 25 ppg, having a career year. He had 29 pts tonight against a good defensive team completely focused on stopping him.

But somehow JJ is at fault.

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I probably speak for many when I say that I do not like the tone of this post. Why are so many people focusing on the strongest part of our franchise (JJ) and leaving out the weakest parts (Coaching, PGs, Centers, youth, GM, etc.)? Lets stop bashing the move that brought in our brightest star and let's start focusing on our real problems.

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You know you are right, without JJ this team has about 6-8 wins. After all of this "rebuilding", the numerous lottery picks, several free agent signings...OMG, we are WORSE than that 13-69 team without JJ. We are in BK's 4th year and we are still a laughingstock, really THE laughingstock because Memphis was in the playoffs last year.Somebody please tell me...how do Billy Knight and Woodson STILL have jobs after all of these "moves" that have us 4 years into rebuilding and still at rock bottom?

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We have two garbage cans at center.

Our starting and backup pgs are hurt.

We have several young wings who have talent but are still learning the game.

Yet someone wants to criticize a guy averaging 25 ppg, having a career year. He had 29 pts tonight against a good defensive team completely focused on stopping him.

But somehow JJ is at fault.

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i'm not saying it is Joe's fault we have 13 wins right now. there is a larger picture here. try to act like a sponge.

this question isn't just being asked to Ex, it's being asked to everybody.

Just what has the Joe Johnson trade netted us?

Fact: 13-26 record

please feel free to share your opinions.

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To the original post (gsuteke) What stupid post. Are you trying to get philosophical on us? Nothing personal, but I just think this post was a waste of time. We obviously scored with Joe being a really good player. We need some guys around him. You are asking the wrong questions. Way off base.
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We got ONE very good player.

We can't look at the Hawks record and answer this. It

has nothing to do with the record, but with one individual

player, Joe Johnson.

In completing this deal, one owner effectively tied the

hands of the rest of the owners to prevent anything

else of importance happening. We got that out of the

deal too.

The Hawks record is due to a combination of things

which we are all aware of.

1- G.M. with his hands virtually tied on any deal.

2 - Coach the other owners can't afford to fire because

they would end up with 2 salaries - Same with the G.M.

3- Injuries to key players all season.

4- Youngest roster in the N.B.A.

So many things that apparently can't be fixed until this

ownership deal is settled. Notice that none of the things

listed above has ANYTHING to do with our getting J.J.

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at the expense of starting a flame war on this board I think the question needs to be asked.

What exactly has the Joe Johnson sign and trade netted us as fans?

the Hawks are 13-26 as of tonight.

feel free to add your comments.


The "as fans" in your sentence is an odd qualifier.

As fans, we have gained:

- no longer have to watch Diaw stink it up

- chance to watch one of the best *shooting* guards in the NBA

- a little hope that we now have a franchise player

Obviously, the losses:

- we may see our draft picks turn into useful players elsewhere

That's really it. I don't think you can look at our record and say "the Joe Johnson trade wrought this."

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