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Lue or Salim + Zaza.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aucs...p&type=lgns Quote: Also Thursday night, a report on ESPN.com cited an unidentified ESPN source saying Vick will not admit to killing dogs or gambling on dogfights when he enters a guilty plea in a Richmond, Va., federal court Monday. ADVERTISEMENT ESPN reported that Vick's defense team met with federal attorneys Thursday afternoon to determine the "summary of facts" to which Vick will plead. But ESPN's source said Vick maintains he never killed dogs and never gambled on a dog fight. The source told ESPN the Atlanta Falcons quarterback will plead guilty to the charge of interstate commerce for the purpose of dogfighting.

Quote: i choose PG: Speedy SG: Joe SF: Marvin PF: Josh C: Shelden I agree with this. Just anything but Zaza in the starting lineup. But I know that Woody will have Zaza starting though.

They have a fairly easy schedule and most of the games are in the dome (what could've been with Vick ). So as long as Harrington doesn't suck it up, they'll probably be around 7-9 or 8-8.

Norwood may be that guy to win the crowd over. And if the defense is healthy I think they can be a big hitting, tough nose defense that can win some crowd over as well.

Quote: Quote: How will losing him have a positive impact when they kept losing badly without him in the lineup? His passing skills have been very underrated imo. He had 20td, 13int which is very good considering the supporting cast he has. Do you live in a cave? Seen the news lately? Geez. At this point, anyone that supports Mr. Vick is either related, stupid, naive, lacking in moral fiber or some combination of the four. Or 13, which would explain at least 3 of them. Just do a little research. See if you are still a "fan" of this herpes spreading, fan flicking, dog killing, 7-9 qb. We went to a Super Bowl WITHOUT Michael Vick. Dog killing or not, we weren't going to one with him. He was a remarkably gifted athlete. He's just one of the dumbest, most arrogant people you could ever meet, apparently. He is no longer a football player and soon to be a Federal prisoner. I am talking about the player, Mike Vick not the person so lay off the name calling. The team was one game away from the superbowl with him so he can get them to the superbowl if this dog killing thing didn't happen. And you don't know if they're going to ban him or not, just wait till all the facts are out.

Quote: My statement is that without offering up any excuses, can the pro Marvin fans show any improvement in his game going from year 1 to year 2? BTW... Normalize his stats with mpg and you will see the ugly truth... (use per 40 stats if you will).. per40 year2: 15.4ppg 6.2rpg Not that bad for a 2nd year 21 yrs old.

How will losing him have a positive impact when they kept losing badly without him in the lineup? His passing skills have been very underrated imo. He had 20td, 13int which is very good considering the supporting cast he has.

True. As a player, Vick is great for the Falcons.

Quote: I'll let you take care of the numbers because thats not my thing.How many blocks will he average since you are Mr Stats next season.Playing the center position it needs to be at least 1 unlike last season! Zaza didn't even average a block last season playing center... Zaza is good backup but is not starter material.

Quote: HELLL NO!!! I don't want that flopper Zaza + Varejeo = welcome to flop city.

This is probably the #1 reason why Smith shouldn't be playing the 3 spot for heavy minutes (if he is then Marvin will not get any minutes to develop into a star).

I don't get why everybody's down on the d-line. The first team didn't allow a TD in the first quarter IIRC and held tough through the first half, which is where the analysis should stop because most 1st stringer were probably on the sideline already.

Quote: Quote: Yeah...I think it all will come down to how good a start Harrington has. If the D is playing well and our running game is OK and our receivers aren't dropping balls I think he will be OK. Otoh, if he throws some picks and our receivers are still dropping balls it could be a mess and Shockley could see some action. Also, our offensive line will have to protect him - he's a pocket passer (meaning target). The odds of him playing all 16 games are probably less than 50-50. And you can't forget that the O-line was geared toward the run, NOT pass protection. That's a concern. I hope Harrington has a better arm, or at least better accuracy, than I've seen from him the past few seasons. His decision making under pressure is kind of an issue too. Shockley is unproven but sometimes the unknown SEEMS better than the less than encouraging known. You haven't been following the Falcons have you? The o-line philosophies have changed since the arrival of the new head coach. They are now geared toward pass protection. We may see a couple of new faces in the starting o-line.

That sucks. Not even Josh Smith got an invite.

Quote: I think everyone needs to keep in mind what the punishment is. Come on. He was banned for two weeks from an internet message board. I mean, Eddie, you mention giving him a warning. Isn't THIS a warning!? If he were permanently banned or given a year or something, I would be part of the outcry. But, this is no big deal. Still, Walter is interpreted wrong on this board. He is a great yin to the kool-aid drinking, tripping in daisies fans that talk about how Josh Childress will be in the 6th man hall of fame. Walt is a bit too negative but others go way too far in the other extreme. Welcome back, Walt. Word.

If they started out very slowly, they need to fire Woody immediately before things get even worse. This team need to make the playoffs this season.

You can't compare coaches of the NBA to MLB managers since all the manager job is to manage the game while the coach does that and drawing up plays.

Quote: Walter called Chillz an a--h--- on a thread and was given a window to apologize or get suspended for two weeks. That is the bulletpoint version. Why should he do anything if he's only suspended for 2 friggin weeks?

I think Boston might have stole one or two games from us.

Well if we're ready for the next step we have to beat the best of them. Besides, It's good to get the tough part of the schedule out of the way when we're all healthy in the beginning. And in turns, we'll get to see how good the Hawks are when injured free.

They probably looking for a PG from that class to replace Nash.

no TNT or ESPN games. Oh well.

Well, he's a versatile player so he probably play some PG/SF in any season.

Like what?