xman Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think Francis is a stud guard. The problem is that he had not had a shooter on any of his teams. I watched him in Houston for years. It was sad - he would dish and they would miss. The only thing that worked was when he (or mobley) took it to the hole or took the shots. I agree that he is emotional and can be a baby sometimes, but he not a thug. He just gets emotionally devoted to some things and some people. I think he would be great in ATL. But, I realllllyyyy want to see him lineup with Marbs in NY. Two ball handlers that can shoot and play defense. They are two of the quickest guys in the NBA. Q will get a ton of open shots the way they will penetrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Quote: But, I realllllyyyy want to see him lineup with Marbs in NY. me too...be great to have new york pull further away from us and give the bulls that #1 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted February 15, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 hehe, anything that keeps the misery coming to ANY NY sports franchise is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Quote: when he had mobley with him, he was far from being considered a ball hog. They complimented and trusted each other and were very comfortable together. Heck they were considered one of the best all around tandems in the league. Despite Mobley not being anywhere near francis caliber. He hasn't had a backcourt mate anywhere near mobleys talent since he was traded. They were also probably lovers. I doubt JJ wants a part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 but there is a big gay community in atlanta so stevie might like it here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownjdb Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: This is where it all began. Drafted by Vancouver. Lip Stuck out, cried until he was traded. So I guess BK wanted him previously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakin Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: This is where it all began. Drafted by Vancouver. Lip Stuck out, cried until he was traded. In fairness to Francis, not even the team wanted to stay in Vancouver. I admire him for his foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownjdb Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: You have to break it down and look at the good and the bad. Does the good outweigh the bad? I think it does. JJ IS the focus of our team now. He IS the go to guy. Having someone of Francis caliber so they can play off each other would be a HUGE bonus for this team. Sure we would be losing Al's 16-18ppg. But we would get nearly the same production in return, as well as passing ability and ball control. Great post Chillz, you hit all the points I wanted to make but was too lazy to type. Just to reiterate, I believe Franchise would be a great fit alongside Johnson. This goes back to the subject of having a tall, ball-handling guard playing beside a short scoring G, ala JT, only Francis ia MUCH better. I say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownjdb Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: Because he makes a lot of money, they are a bad team with zero cap flex and he (or any one player) isn't going to make them good any time soon. They are in the same situation that MANY teams find themselves in. It certainly isnt' as cut and dried as him being a ballhog and they want to trade him. They have problems that go far beyond any one player. Plus they have Nelson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJA316 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: but there is a big gay community in atlanta so stevie might like it here... HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJA316 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 i just realized -- if Francis comes here, that's a hell of a run of consecutive 3's here..... (guys that wear the #3 of course) Shareef - our premier player for several years Sura - after shareef was traded, Sura became the...."star" Harrington - hawks premier player 2 years running Francis - newest premier player (if it happens) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukegotgame Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 is there any proof to this rumor, or just talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seano Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 ^^^^ Steve Francis is definitely in play. Orlando is trying very hard to move him, so that part of the rumor is true. As far as us being involved in any way in that, I believe that's just fans being hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: Harrington - hawks premier player 2 years running Francis - newest premier player (if it happens) walker was the hawks premier player last year until he was traded...al was then the premier player for 2 weeks until he sat the rest of the season out this year jj is our premier player so al has only been our premier player for 2 weeks since he's been here and jj would still be our premier player even with francis...he's better than steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Quote: ...and jj would still be our premier player even with francis...he's better than steve Hafta agree with you Np27. I've been very impressed with JJ this last month or so. He may not be the big PG BK had hoped for but he has skills beyond a typical shooting guard. As much as I pooh-poohed the terms of the trade, I'm very glad we have him. He looks like the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooshdoctor Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 no offense to jj, but i think steve would have been a better fit for this team originally. jj is fine now, and he's young, so that's ok. but what we wanted was someone who could create for himself off the dribble, and then be able to setup teammates. i think johnson is more of a 2, and francis can be more of a scorer, and can get rid of the ball if he needs to. he would have been a better fit originally, but i'm happy with jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Except Francis has a history fo being a malcontent, and JJ has been nothing but a positive force for our franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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