Numbers to expect for next season?

[mrhonline]

Check out these guys' numbers in nine games since the All-Star break:

Johnson - 23 pts, 9 assists, 3 rebs.

Childress - 14 pts, 6 rebs., 2 assists

Smith - 13 pts, 9 rebs. 4 assists, 4 blocks

Marvin - 11 pts, 6 rebs.

Pachulia - 10 pts., 7 rebs.

Stoudamire - 10 pts.

All of these guys are, to use Hollinger's wording, at least decent pros.

Don't tell anyone, but I'm starting to become optimistic. If the Hawks can get anywhere near this level of production from the above players, and get decent production from their draft pick and the "cap space" player, they're going to make the playoffs next year.

(FWIW, Al Harrington has been tremendous offensively since the Break: 22 pts, 7 rebounds).

[Final_quest]

I'm not ready to predict our numbers for next season, yet.

We'll see how we finish the season, but we can say for the first time in a few years that the playoffs should be our goal.

[Packfill]

Those are good numbers no doubt but Al's production is hard to ignore. If he is not with the team next year it may take a month or two before the young guys are able to fill in that loss of production. If that happens, then a slow start could derail the team's playoff aspirations.

That said, I think the team should have making the playoffs as their baseline goal for next season. Anything less would be a failure.

[CBAreject]

Here are my most realistic predictions

Johnson - 32 pts, 12 assists, 8 rebs -- 30 triple doubles

Childress - 22 pts, 9 rebs., 55% shooting

Smith - 23 pts, 19 rebs. 4 assists, 8 blocks

Marvin - 35 pts, 14 rebs, 5 assists, 45% 3 pt.

Pachulia - 18 pts., 12 rebs, 3 blocks.

Stoudamire - 15 pts, 4 3 pt'ers per game, 6 blocks

Let me have it boys

[RAHMOR]

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Stoudamire - 15 pts, 4 3 pt'ers per game, 6 blocks

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You must be f-ing crazy if you think Salim will average nearly as many block as Josh.

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Johnson - 32 pts, 12 assists, 8 rebs -- 30 triple doubles

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Only 30 triple-doubles for JJ. Out of 82 games, that's only 36.5% of the time. Hawks fans and their welfare mentality.

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Smith - 23 pts, 19 rebs. 4 assists, 8 blocks

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Jmoove is average 4 assists now, do you think he won't get any better.

I have to say I'm disappointed in your "Forecast". You probably think we'll only win 50 games next year too.

[tmac13]

I think Salims block totals are way to low..I expect at least 9 blocks per game from Salim..I Also think Marvin will average at least 17 rebounds per game..Everthing else is about right..78-4 should be our record.

[f_town]

lol!

[CBAreject]

Well, I think Salim *could* have better stats, but with the type of season I have Marvin putting up, it's difficult to get too many minutes at the wing positions. His blocks per 40 will easily be 10 or more.

[Final_quest]

I think he meant 6 blocks on the season. He has 3 this year so far. If he works hard in the offseason he could bring that number up.

[DJlaysitup]

I'd say the playoffs definitely should be our goal...but I don't see that as realistic with our inside game the way it is. Zaza, Batista, and whoever simply isn't good enough to compete solidly when the perimeter shots aren't falling just right.

Pushing Pachulia's stats up to:

"Pachulia - 18 pts., 12 rebs, 3 blocks."

is a pipe dream IMHO...unless he grows 4 inches in the offseason.

[Nicholasp27]

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I think the team should have making the playoffs as their baseline goal for next season. Anything less would be a failure.

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i disagree

i think that if we are legitimately in the 8th seed race, then that is progress and not a failure; just disappointing

the following year anything less than playoffs would be a failure

[gsuteke]

i agree predicting win totals is impossible until you see who the hawks pick up in the offseason.

the acquisition of 2 defensive stoppers to man the paint would allow the Hawks to keep Harrington on the floor and still lower the # of points given up.

Harrington can succeed in Atlanta with the right players around him, however as of now

Al Harrington = addition by subraction

[Gray Mule]

Harrington is not a great defender in the paint.

I believe we all agree on that.

However, he does some great defensive work on the outside.

He has quick hands and is able to cause a lot of trouble,

stealing the ball or causing the errant pass.

He's not bad on the rebounds either. Just because he

can't or doesn't stop the inside stuff doesn't mean

he's not playing defense.

We see the bad defense in close to the basket and forget

all the things he does well. And, he can score some too!!

He's got room to improve. But, he's still young. Just

because he's one of our veterans doesn't mean he can't

get better.

[gsuteke]

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Harrington is not a great defender in the paint.

I believe we all agree on that.

However, he does some great defensive work on the outside.

He has quick hands and is able to cause a lot of trouble,

stealing the ball or causing the errant pass.

He's not bad on the rebounds either. Just because he

can't or doesn't stop the inside stuff doesn't mean

he's not playing defense.

We see the bad defense in close to the basket and forget

all the things he does well. And, he can score some too!!

He's got room to improve. But, he's still young. Just

because he's one of our veterans doesn't mean he can't

get better.

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i like this guy. the eternal optimist. people like you keep the flowers blooming my friend.

[a1aa0]

PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!!!!!!!

It just came to me out of thin air... I'm a marketing genius... Or did he get fired a couple of years ago!?!?

[Nicholasp27]

why not put a $100 guarantee on that slogan?

[CBAreject]

Now, you're talking. Keep these *original* ideas a-comin' y'all

Anyhoo, Nick...I think it's freaking hilarious how people are taking my CLEAR FARCE of a prediction so seriously. That's actually why I did it. I knew they would "let me have it", even if I made it clear I was being ridiculous...and I think that's so funny.

[AHF]

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Now, you're talking. Keep these *original* ideas a-comin' y'all

Anyhoo, Nick...I think it's freaking hilarious how people are taking my CLEAR FARCE of a prediction so seriously. That's actually why I did it. I knew they would "let me have it", even if I made it clear I was being ridiculous...and I think that's so funny.

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Good times.