Breakfast with Bernie 7/28/06: Hawks 2 Add Big Man

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Melvin Ely

[GST]

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so we gave up sjax/jt/diaw and moved down a few spots in the draft and got JOE JOHNSON, a top-5 sg in this league, in return

jj trade looking better and better

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Wouldn't it be even sweeter if we finished with a better record than Indy? In that case we would have gotten Joe Johnson AND a higher draft pick in the 2007 draft in exchange for Diaw and the #21 pick in the 2006 draft. That would be pretty slick.

[DJlaysitup]

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...Wouldn't it be even sweeter if we finished with a better record than Indy? In that case we would have gotten Joe Johnson AND a higher draft pick in the 2007 draft in exchange for Diaw and the #21 pick in the 2006 draft. That would be pretty slick.

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That would be sweet! Plus we will already have Indy's TE for 7.5mil thanks to the Al trade. We could combine that with a player or two and get a serious free agent without really having to spend any of our own money!

[AHF]

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Like Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Tayshaun Prince, Andre Kirilenko, Gilbert Arenas, Ben Wallace, Rashard Lewis, and many other players available in the late first round? A role player is the best we can hope for? Really?

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Who are we kidding? Knight will give a guarantee to draft whatever 6'8 guy he falls in love with without working out.

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Between Salim Stoudemire, Boris Diaw and Josh Smith there is a pretty good chance we find someone with real value at that spot, IMO.

I also don't like the guarantee approach to this draft, though.

[tmac13]

Before Hawksfanatic beheads you..We don't get any trade exceptions..Indy simply uses it to get AL, we don't get it in return because we are already under the cap..

[DJlaysitup]

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...That would be sweet! Plus we will already have Indy's TE for 7.5mil thanks to the Al trade. We could combine that with a player or two and get a serious free agent without really having to spend any of our own money!

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Awe shucks...HawksFanatic isn't responding. I was trying to push him over the deep end on the TE :-)

[Guest Walter]

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BK is showing that he will not bow to pressure and he's not going to make a deal just for the sake of it. He's going to make a deal that doesn't hurt us financially, gets us something of value (a 1st rounder and cash) and gets rid of some dead weight in Edwards.

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Then the deal of Al, losing Munster, and getting whatever 1st rd pick was worth it. I would be content if it allowed us to sign Anderson since no other players would be lost in the deal if it requires a trade.

W

[Plainview1981]

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How is Indy a lock to be a playoff team?

The top teams in the East at this point are very clear: Miami, Detroit, New Jersey, Chicago, and Cleveland. Indiana definitely won't be in the top 5 in the East, which probably puts the pick in the teens definitely.

Then, the Pacers will be competing with a much improved Orlando team along with the improving Milwaukee Bucks and Washington Wizards for the final three playoff spots. I don't think Indiana will be as good as Orlando and Milwaukee, and at this point, I can't see them getting in over Washington.

Basically, that puts the pick in the late lottery.

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I think Indy can beat out Washington. What does Washington have up front? NOTHING.

[Plainview1981]

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Just look at what BK has done with the Hawks so far...Josh Smith at 17, Boris Diaw at 21. If we get another pick in that range I see no reason not to be optomistic.

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I don't know what's so special about getting Smoove at 17th? It's not like it was a big gamble. Smoove was once considered a possible top 5 pick and is from Atlanta.

[AHF]

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Just look at what BK has done with the Hawks so far...Josh Smith at 17, Boris Diaw at 21. If we get another pick in that range I see no reason not to be optomistic.

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I don't know what's so special about getting Smoove at 17th? It's not like it was a big gamble. Smoove was once considered a possible top 5 pick and is from Atlanta.

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Fine with me if we get another non-special pick at #17 like Josh Smith.

That isn't exactly a rarity. Remember how Gerald Green was going #3 overall and then fell to around 17? Those picks have value.

[mrhonline]

I just want everyone to know that I was one of the first posters to suggest ditching Edwards off onto Indiana.

[Final_quest]

Doesn't matter. Washington has Arenas, Jamison, and Butler.

I wonder if that Blatche kid they drafted last year can make an impact on the frontline?

[CBAreject]

Watch, this will end up being Luke Schenscher or some other sorry chode sack. I don't buy this "the fans will say he's a good player" BS. There are very few bigmen that most NBA fans recognize. We're not getting any of them.

[mrhonline]

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Watch, this will end up being Luke Schenscher or some other sorry chode sack. I don't buy this "the fans will say he's a good player" BS. There are very few bigmen that most NBA fans recognize. We're not getting any of them.

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

...We heard this last year and it turned out to be John Edwards IIRC.

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Watch, this will end up being Luke Schenscher or some other sorry chode sack. I don't buy this "the fans will say he's a good player" BS. There are very few bigmen that most NBA fans recognize. We're not getting any of them.

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

...We heard this last year and it turned out to be John Edwards IIRC.

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If it was someone as pathetic as Edwards or Schenscher we sure wouldn't nead mutliple millions of dollars to complete the deal. Why would we wait on something that small?