Why is Harrington offered so little?

[Bulldog]

Nene $10m per year, even Wilcox and Gooden have got around $9m per year in their big deals... but Harrington who averaged 18.6, 6.9 and 3.1 plus over a steal a game and basically improved his game every year of his 8 years in the league and the best he can get is a four-year contract worth $35.3 million at under $9m per year??? I dont get it.

[pimp]

Teams like THE Warriors , Nuggets, Celtics and Lakers would pay him 10 million per.But they haven't offered a sign n trade deal that the Hawks are willing to take.

[capstone21]

Nene is way way way overpaid. One of the worst contracts ever because he never did anything to deserve it. Contracts are getting out of control. Its good that so many teams are over the cap now. Maybe a little more control will be made with making contracts with players. Harrington is a victim of that. Honestly he should not be getting 10 mil either. A contract worth 7 million is what he is worth as are a lot of players that are getting way too much. Hopfully this will start a new trend of resonable contracts.

[Final_quest]

See Harrington was hurt just as much as our team by the owner's restrictions on taking no salary back. This was the most he could get paid with our limitations.

[Lascar78]

He is not a true big (SF/PF), and he doesn't play defense. That is why he will make much less than a defensive big like Nene.

[exodus]

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That is why he will make much less than a defensive big like Nene.

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Who we could have had if we had taken the Nene/Watson deal before the deadline.

[gsuteke]

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That is why he will make much less than a defensive big like Nene.

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Who we could have had if we had taken the Nene/Watson deal before the deadline.

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Denver would not have been able sign him to that contract if we had traded for him. they would have been over the cap.

that would have set off an entirely different chain of events. would anyone have took a flyer on Nene at that kind of money? probably not. If Denver were to do it they'd have to go right back through us to do so.

[jerrywest]

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That is why he will make much less than a defensive big like Nene.

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Who we could have had if we had taken the Nene/Watson deal before the deadline.

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I heard about that rumor a lot. Do we have proof that it was on the table?

[exodus]

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Do we have proof that it was on the table?

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it was reported everywhere for weeks. We have just as much proof that Nene/Watson was available as we do now about the indy deal.

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Denver would not have been able sign him to that contract if we had traded for him. they would have been over the cap.

that would have set off an entirely different chain of events. would anyone have took a flyer on Nene at that kind of money? probably not. If Denver were to do it they'd have to go right back through us to do so.

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if we had traded for Nene he most likely wouldn't have gotten any offers at all. The only teams in position to offer Nene a big deal would have been Chicago and NOK.

What incentive would they have to make Nene an offer when they know we would have matched anyway. And they obviously had other plans.

[Final_quest]

We could have Nene, Roy, and Watson instead of Speedy and Shelden.

[exodus]

Just twist that knife a little harder why don't you.

[jerrywest]

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Denver would not have been able sign him to that contract if we had traded for him. they would have been over the cap.

that would have set off an entirely different chain of events. would anyone have took a flyer on Nene at that kind of money? probably not. If Denver were to do it they'd have to go right back through us to do so.

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if we had traded for Nene he most likely wouldn't have gotten any offers at all. The only teams in position to offer Nene a big deal would have been Chicago and NOK.

What incentive would they have to make Nene an offer when they know we would have matched anyway. And they obviously had other plans.

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Yep. Nene would have been roaly screwed like Al. Don't think our owners would have signed him. They would have signed and traded him to someone for a lottery protected 2009 pick. We would have Watson instead of Speedy. At least that would have given BK more reasons to take Sheldon and pass up Roy/Foye. Whats new?

When Rahim,Robinson, JT, Theo were here and we were all so excited in this forum and bitched at Ford for thinking we suck. We thought he was surely wrong then. Well, looks like he is right again. Hawks are Hawks.

[Lascar78]

I don't disagree, I'm just saying that there's a reason that the market for Al isn't so high. Also, from what BK said, my understanding is that while we could have gotten Nene for Al, we could not have gotten Watson or Boykins with him.

[exodus]

Denver was definitely looking to dumb Watson, who is roughly comparable to Speedy although I would probably prefer Watson for his size and D.

However even if the deal was Nene/filler that would be looking good right now.

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I'm just saying that there's a reason that the market for Al isn't so high

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Which just so happens to be the same thing I was saying in january. That is why trading him before the deadline made so much sense.

[Lascar78]

I'm not disagreeing at this point. I also wanted to deal Al for Nene. However, when the deadline passed and Al stayed I felt like:

-I wasn't worried about Al leaving without a SNT

-We could probably get better value for a re-signed Al

Looks like I was right on the first point and wrong on the second.

[Diesel]

I disagree. Harrington is offered so little because our business is in the streets. We can't offer more than a 4 year deal.. Well guess what, Indy offers a 4 year deal...We don't want to take back contracts.. Well guess what, we're getting ending deals and TEs..

I don't think it has much to do with actual play. If Al were Kobe in the same condition, we'd see the same deals.

[Yeti]

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We could have Nene, Roy, and Watson instead of Speedy and Shelden.

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I would have loved that.

[Nicholasp27]

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We can't offer more than a 4 year deal..

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u keep saying this

the restrictions are for non-hawks, so al doesn't apply here

[Lascar78]

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If Al were Kobe in the same condition, we'd see the same deals.

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and I think you are out of your mind