CBAreject Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Is this not the most boring offseason in memory? I thought there would be lots of action. I think the team will be fine, but I thought JS would make a big trade. I'm glad he hasn't budged on LaRoche. Too many teams offered table scraps and not enough meat. I would've loved a LaRoche for Figgins/Saunders trade, but nobody seems to want to deal young arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jdawgflow Posted January 14, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Quote: but nobody seems to want to deal young arms. Except the Braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoodall Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I agree with you. The offseason has been very quiet. I think it's largely due to John Shuerholtz being handcuffed by payroll constraints due to delay in the selling of the team. I think the Braves will have a good season in 2007. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandauwalker Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 This is the best year for the Braves to have little activity. The FA market is unbelievably inflated, we are getting a lot of people back from injury, and we resigned Wickman (our closer) before the season ended. The one deal that we did was an absolute steal (R. Soriano for H. Ramirez). Because of our tight payroll, we didn't waste our money on overpaid players. I love what the Braves have done this offseason and we will definitely compete within the NL East! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted January 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I predict the bullpen will be the best in the NL East. I love this 7-8-9 group: Villareal, Soriano, Wickman I love this lefty: McBride I like these middle relievers: Paronto, Yates I think these guys are going to be great: Devine, Stockman It's really a complete bullpen. This bullpen is so many times better than what we've had for the last 2 years. The only thing that you might change is adding another lefty, and we may need Villareal to start (which he does well), so that would change our 7th inning guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Gotta think that the ownership situation has something to do with in??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Money Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Quote: Gotta think that the ownership situation has something to do with in??? Of course. But I'd rather us be sitting here quietly than wasting money as so many other teams have done. The Soriano trade was a good one. I didn't like the rumors about trading with Tampa Bay or Pittsburgh. Again, I'd rather sit quietly than make a horrible trade just for the sake of saying we did something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Quote: I predict the bullpen will be the best in the NL East. I love this 7-8-9 group: Villareal, Soriano, Wickman I love this lefty: McBride I like these middle relievers: Paronto, Yates I think these guys are going to be great: Devine, Stockman It's really a complete bullpen. This bullpen is so many times better than what we've had for the last 2 years. The only thing that you might change is adding another lefty, and we may need Villareal to start (which he does well), so that would change our 7th inning guy. I don't like Paronto, Yates, or McBride. We don't have Leo anymore. These guys throw it anywhere they want. Often times it is up in the zone and gets crushed. I am a little happier than last year. Still, I think McDowell iz lazy. The exact opposite of Leo, and it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Quote: I predict the bullpen will be the best in the NL East. I love this 7-8-9 group: Villareal, Soriano, Wickman I love this lefty: McBride I like these middle relievers: Paronto, Yates I think these guys are going to be great: Devine, Stockman It's really a complete bullpen. This bullpen is so many times better than what we've had for the last 2 years. The only thing that you might change is adding another lefty, and we may need Villareal to start (which he does well), so that would change our 7th inning guy. Hm.. I like nothing at all about the Vulture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Andruw Jones will be gone next year. that will free up a ton of money and allow for some flexibility going into 2008. P.S. before somebody goes on a losing Andruw rant think about how much money we get for the production he gives us. overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 You are wrong. He is the best defensive center fielder ever. His offense has improved dramatically over the last two years. He is also in the lineup EVERY day. He anchors our lineup. Schuerholtz needs to win the title without Andruw or I want him to retire. We have gotten worse for about 7 years. Andruw signed, I think, a six year-90 million dollar deal. That's a bargain. Look at Vernon Wells or Beltran. We will lose Andruw and spend the money on something Tim Hudsonish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 he also hits .270 I'll spend my 18 million elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 he's a .262 hitter. flat on rbis to strikeouts and in fact almost as many strikeouts as hits. he's a career .267 hitter. that ain't gettting it done. http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/t...layer_id=116662 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Who you gonna plug in the 4 hole Billy Beane boy? By the way, Andruw is one of the only Braves to hit in the postseason recently. To rip Andruw and just brush off "the best defensive outfielder in history" because he strikes out(who doesn't these days?)is being a little dumb to the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Quote: Who you gonna plug in the 4 hole Billy Beane boy? there is no need to have that discussion right now as neither you or I know who will be available this time next year. Andruw has stated he will not accept a trade. fortunately for us he'll be playing for a contract this year so we won't be seeing the fat, lazy Andruw that we've come to know and love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Andruw has hit in the middle of the lineup for a decade now. I'm not a huge sentimentality guy, but once you lose too many of these guys and you're not wining, you're not the Braves anymore. See-Atlanta Hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Quote: Andruw has hit in the middle of the lineup for a decade now. I'm not a huge sentimentality guy, but once you lose too many of these guys and you're not wining, you're not the Braves anymore. See-Atlanta Hawks let me ask you a question. is Andruw Jones worth 18 to 20 million dollars a year for the production he provides? keep in mind that is 20 to 25 percent of the total payroll. before you bring up thrifty spending on Atlanta's part consider they are in the top 10 in payroll, it's not like they're not spending any money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Yes. How many Jerseys with his number do you see? He's also a huge pull for us in the islands. Kids will WANT to talk to us first. Not after Andruw walks. All that goes away. Tell me if he was worth it when Bobby is gone in 4 years and attendance is 80's like. Andruw is a reason to go to the ballpark. I was all for trading him a few years ago, but he has carried us for 2 years. If we had any pitching at all, we would have made the wild-card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Quote: Yes. How many Jerseys with his number do you see? He's also a huge pull for us in the islands. Kids will WANT to talk to us first. Not after Andruw walks. All that goes away. Tell me if he was worth it when Bobby is gone in 4 years and attendance is 80's like. Andruw is a reason to go to the ballpark. I was all for trading him a few years ago, but he has carried us for 2 years. If we had any pitching at all, we would have made the wild-card. i think resigning Andruw to the contract he will command is silly. you think otherwise. we are at an impasse. i am perfectly fine with that. only time will tell who was (is) right. moving right along.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 So, you think Frenchy, McCann and Chuck James are gonna' fill the seats? If we lose Andruw, you have to replace him with a younger, cheaper player with similar positive qualities on the the rise. That is J.S. mo. Who's it going to be? Frenchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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