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What did he average for Houston 8PPG?If teams didn't

have to worry about Shaq Horry wouldn't do jack [censored]

for any team.He was never even a good player to start

with.Horry was a nothing in Houston either.He and his

9PPG career average.lol

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Gasol already rebounds as much as Reef and only averages

a couple PPG less.Gasol is a ROOKIE so Shareef should do

better.

"It's funny that people make reference to his feet. Shaq has

bad feet. Most Big men have bad feet. However, after he gets

his feet together......"

Shaq also played this year....Diop did nothing but like 1PPG

and barely played on a Cleveland that is bad.You can link

a play profile all you want.But go look at how many times

he was on IR as a rookie.That is not good for someone his

age.With bad feet at 20 years old he will be able to handle

the NBA.

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Your argument is ad hominim, the media making a big deal about player's indiscresions has little to nothing to do with it. The hip hop thug that you allude to is more a product of the media, generation gap btwn the players and many of the fans, and the cultural gap btwn the players(90% black) and the fans (82%) white. I'm tired of hearing middle aged white men on sports shows going on about how horrible the players behavior is. I really think they and many others are jealous that when they where 19 -25 they didn't have millions inthe bank and get to sleep with a different sexy groupie everyday.

And what kind of crap is that saying "KG getting paid more than his lkife is worth" that is some really foul (censored) to say. You need Jesus,or Muhmmed or Buddah any of them would help you with that pinned up anger and hostility you have.

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Yeah the media made Spree choke the coach...The media made

Odom do what he did....The Media pissed Ostertag off to the

point to were he pushed the coach.

"when they where 19 -25 they didn't have millions inthe bank and

get to sleep with a different sexy groupie everyday."

That money is only there because of us.We feed him and allow him

to do easy stuff and get paid lots doing it.

" when they where 19 -25 they didn't have millions inthe bank and

get to sleep with a different sexy groupie everyday."

Yeah and end up with aids like poor old Magic right?

"And what kind of crap is that saying "KG getting paid more than his

lkife is worth" t"

Nobody is worth 110 million bucks.Not me, and surely no some money

hog basketball player.

" You need Jesus,or Muhmmed or Buddah any of them would help you

with that pinned up anger and hostility you have."

I'm a mean @ss as I will admit,but I am telling the truth.Nobody's life is

worthless,but it isn't worth 100 milion either.

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Mr. Johnson is one of the most respected businessmen in America. After all his sponsors dropped him he built a $1/2 billion empire. He is a husband and father. And unlike many clowns he didn't find some slut and run off to the suburbs, he has stayed and helped build the community. i.e Magic's establishments in SW ATL. He is a example every young black man no every young man should aspire to. I only hope I am like him someday.

In 30+ yrs has spreewell, outside that incident, even so much as raised his voice. Yet you would never let him forget it.

As for the $100 mill comments, I guess you don't have many aspirations in life so you think wealth and success are something the wealthy are not deserving of. But I will tell you this I was an athelete and I know they go through, belive me KG had to work his A off to get where he is. Self made millionaires are deserving of thier wealth, they didn't have trust funds. And I respect that.

Show a little respect its one thing to talk about peoples ability to ball or their hoops knowledge its another thing to attack their life

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Mr. Johnson is one of the most respected businessmen in America.

After all his sponsors dropped him he built a $1/2 billion empire. He

is a husband and father. And unlike many clowns he didn't find

some slut and run off to the suburbs,"

No he just ran to the street corner in downtown somewhere.

"As for the $100 mill comments, I guess you don't have many aspirations

in life so you think wealth and success are something the wealthy are not

deserving of. But I will tell you this I was an athelete and I know they go

through, belive me KG had to work his A off to get where he is."

Oh yeah,poor rich dude worked his a** off to be a entertainer.What about

people that have to work their a** off to earn a dollar?And I should respect

these rich players that steal fans money and doesn't even put on quaility

product?

" another thing to attack their life"

So you're saying a dude that slept around and got aids I should respect

just cause he was a ball player?That's a joke.

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Did you listen? I'm not intersested all that much in magic's Ball career, in fact when he was playing I hated him. The fact is Magic made some mistakes and turned his life around.

Don't be mad, just try harder and you can be rich someday too. You have too much of a sense of entitlement. To qoute the Notorius B.I.G. "This world wont give me (censored) any thing you get you got to work hard for it.

If you think the atheletes are ripping you off stop going to games. Even though AOL's ripping you and the atheletes off. Personally the only time I've been to sporting events was when I was either participating or when I got the free tickets U of Fla. atheletes get every year. That is why they invented TV. Hell Euroleague was on for free all the time when I was in Europe. Besides judging from the fact that your in a hawks chatroom, these "undeserving" atheletes must be adding some sort of value to your life.

Get over your sense of entitlement and stop assuming you know what others are going through b/c guess what? You Dont

" men shouldn't be jealous thats a female trait. What? You mad because you sell dimes and he pushes weight. Respect the game. That should be it. What you eat dont make me s#it"

- Jay Z 2001

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"If you think the atheletes are ripping you off stop going to games"

Actually I've never went to a game on don't plan too.These

"players"aren;t worth it.

"these "undeserving" atheletes must be adding some sort of value to your life."

Acutally I am usally on here when I am bored.

"Get over your sense of entitlement and stop assuming you know what

others are going through b/c guess what? You Dont"

I do know these ball players don't have to suffer the same way a hard

working person does. They don't ahve the pressure of having to worry

about bills and house payments.

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laughable what happen to all of your witty joust and logical debate.

First admit you enjoy the site your on hear a lot for someone who only comes here when they are bored

Your problems are yours theirs are their own . Everyone has problems. Stop being jealous

Again

" men shouldn't be jealous thats a female trait. What? You mad because you sell dimes and he pushes weight. Respect the game. That should be it. What you eat dont make me s#it"

- Jay Z 2001

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" men shouldn't be jealous thats a female trait. What? You mad because

you sell dimes and he pushes weight. Respect the game. That should be it.

What you eat dont make me s#it"

- Jay Z 2001 "

Oh Yea I down wit that sucka....

Isn't he like a rapper?lol

PS:Maybe you should take you're own advice and not be jealous of

Good players.....Hypocrite.

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Yes,

Jay Z is a successful Musician, Entertainer, and Business man. I think You could learn a lot from his insites. You seem like a angry middle aged man who is upset that the American dream that was promised to him as a child never materailized. I think listening to his perspective will help you understand a lot a things that you don't now. Goto Kazaa.com download Kazaa and then Download a few of his songs, they might help you make it through.

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Actually I am 21

I've heard him before and he is talentless as all rappers are.

If you want to talk more address me through my PM's mailbox

That's it.

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...much less for every Petrovich.

One sure as hell could list 100 Ed Grays for every Vince Carter.

There are 100 Xs more domestic players in the NBA. No wonder there are more better domestic players. DUH!?!

That being said, the FEW foreign players entering the NBA are hogging "our" awards. For every 12 domestic players drafted, 1 foreign player is drafted. How on earth are they winning ROY, All-star awards, and THE MAJORITY OF all-rookie team honors (Kirilenko, Gasol, Parker) if they can't flat out ball!

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Hotlanta If you were in the Lime light all the time you would do stupid stuff too. Don't act like you have been perfect your whole life. Quit being selfrightous. Jesus used murderers as disciples and if they can change, so can a man that beats his wife. So quit bringing it up all the time. You mean to tell me you have never done anything you regreted? Now imagine if the media was there to blow it out of proportion. I don't know what happened between Kid and his wife no more than you do. He could have slapped her once or he could have beat the hell out of her. While both is wrong I think people make mistakes and they learn from them. When it becomes repeated then you can call him a wife beater.

What do you mean"And my point is that todays american players are more known for their side show tatics than they are for what they do on the basketball court."

I hate to break it to ya but athletes have not changed the media is just more intrusive in people's life these days. Babe Ruth was a druggie and a drunk but he is idolized. And the list goes on. They were beating and women then too it's just the media was told to mind their own damn business.

LOL Mcgrady carried that team by himself but he is a loser Hotlanta you are very humorous at times. Dallas and Sacramento are some of the most talented teams in the league. I doubt you could put any of those players you mentioned in McGrady's shoes and expected them to make the playoffs. I will guarantee that if McGrady was on Sacrameto's team instead of Peja they would have raped the Lakers. And if he was on Dallas's team they probably would beat the Lakers also.

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The worse thing I ever done was cut a good women lose

due to family pressure because the women was of a difference

race.If I had to do it over again I would change it.But that

is the only think I have ever really regreted doing.But I've

never hit a women and never tend too unless it were a life

and death situation as if she was gunnna shoot me or something.

There are just somethings you don't do.

Using Babe Ruth???Atleast he loved playing the game and instead

of just loving the money.I have a real problem with the money

hungry players have become.

"

LOL Mcgrady carried that team by himself but he is a loser Hotlanta

you are very humorous at times."

First round in a weak east is carrying a team?But to his credit it is

futher than we have goten in years but that doesn't say a whole

lot.First round isn't much of a winner and he also got slapped around

by Baron Davis.

"I will guarantee that if McGrady was on Sacrameto's team instead of

Peja they would have raped the Lakers."

Tmac got raped by Baron Davis so what makes you think he would

beat Kobe Bryant in the playoffs?Tmac lost to a Mashburn less

Hornets that won less games in the reg season.

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