Cool site that shows where each player shoots from

[ncthompson11]

I found this on the realgm atlanta board if you havent seen it already. It breaks down field goal percentages for players and teams by different zones on the floor, showing where we are hot and where we are cold. Its a really cool website.

You guys should check out dirks and nashs shot chart. Truly amazing and just shows the fundamentals these guys have and that they can hit from anywhere on a consistent basis.

[Weez]

what is the address for this 'myestery' site?

[AtLaS]

He's probably talking about www.nba.com/hotzones, I look at that site from time to time. The only player on our team who is impressive is JJ. Everyone else's looks horrible with the exception of Salim.

[BigDirty]

Ouch, Smoove and Speedy look really horrible in this diagram.

[cyman3]

yeah, the shotcharts of nash and dirk looks great.

Iverson's not so much.

Shaq is pretty consistent, in terms of where he shoots.

[ncthompson11]

wow i dont need to try and type stuff at midnight anymore. Yes its www.nba.com/hotzones

[Diesel]

On the hotzones..

Check out the last 10 games of last season for:

Marvin, Smoove, CHillz, Salim, & Shelden.

I think we're really going to be upset with ourselves when we find out what we missed out on with Salim... However, Marvin stinks.. Smoove needs to get his stuff together... and Chillz, Salim, and Shelden are our money players.

[Diesel]

Check out Al Harrington for the season.

This guy can shoot!?

[Peoriabird]

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Marvin stinks.. Smoove needs to get his stuff together...

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Smoove shot less than 32% in all but 3 of the 14 areas. Marvin shot less than 32% in only 3 of the 14 areas with a broken hand. Nice try. This doesn't support your Smoove to the 3 crusade so give it up!

[exodus]

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Marvin stinks.. Smoove needs to get his stuff together...

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Smoove shot less than 32% in all but 3 of the 14 areas. Marvin shot less than 32% in only 3 of the 14 areas with a broken hand. Nice try. This doesn't support your Smoove to the 3 crusade so give it up!

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An agenda post from Diesel? No way!

[Diesel]

Did you follow directions??

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Check out

the last 10 games of last season

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Marvin, Smoove, CHillz, Salim, & Shelden.

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Obviously you didn't...

Why is 32% the magic number? Because Marvin shot 35% most of the time? Is that an agenda?

[AHF]

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Did you follow directions??

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Check out

the last 10 games of last season

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Marvin, Smoove, CHillz, Salim, & Shelden.

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Obviously you didn't...

Why is 32% the magic number? Because Marvin shot 35% most of the time? Is that an agenda?

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Looking at the last 10 games for last season, I see Marvin with 2 hot zones, 5 neutral zones and 4 cold zones.

I see Chillz with 2 hot zones and 11 cold zones.

Shelden and Salim were both very hot to end the season.

[AHF]

I forgot Josh Smith - He had 3 hot zones, 1 neutral zone and 10 cold zones over the last 10 games.

[AtLaS]

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Did you follow directions??

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Check out

the last 10 games of last season

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Marvin, Smoove, CHillz, Salim, & Shelden.

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Obviously you didn't...

Why is 32% the magic number? Because Marvin shot 35% most of the time? Is that an agenda?

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Looking at the last 10 games for last season, I see Marvin with 2 hot zones, 5 neutral zones and 4 cold zones.

I see Chillz with 2 hot zones and 11 cold zones.

Shelden and Salim were both very hot to end the season.

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The only thing that this doesn't take into account is the percentage of shots taken in those zones. For example, Marvin only took 19 shots from 4 total cold zones, but in his hot and neutral zones he took 124 shots.

It's like Shaq, his hot zones are horrible except for the one spot right near the basket, but that's where he's most effective.

[Diesel]

The thing that bothered me most about Marvin is that he couldn't hit underneath the goal with strong consistency.

[AHF]

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The thing that bothered me most about Marvin is that he couldn't hit underneath the goal with strong consistency.

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He clearly needs to bulk up a bit to improve his scoring at the rim.

[Peoriabird]

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The thing that bothered me most about Marvin is that he couldn't hit underneath the goal with strong consistency.

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Because he is a perimeter player who was not strong enough to finish like he will in the future! What should have bothered you more was Josh Smith not being able to hit perimeter shots since you want him at the 3 so badly!

[Traceman]

He shot 45% overall and 41% if you don't include the dunk/layup zone. That is not scorching but it is not bad at all particularly when you compare him with:

Smoove - 43% overall and 25% outside the dunk/layup zone.

Chillz - 46% overall and 23% outside the dunk/layup zone.

Marvin shot the ball significantly better than either Smoove or Chillz other than around the basket and his overall shooting percentage was better than Smoove's and only slightly lower than Chillz'.

You are telling me that Chillz is a "money player" and Marvin "stinks" based on Chillz shooting 1% better overall and EIGHTEEN PERCENT WORSE on anything other than dunks or layups? Give me a break Mr. Agenda Man!

[TheNorthCydeRises]

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The thing that bothered me most about Marvin is that he couldn't hit underneath the goal with strong consistency.

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Because he is a perimeter player who was not strong enough to finish like he will in the future! What should have bothered you more was Josh Smith not being able to hit perimeter shots since you want him at the 3 so badly!

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WOW !! I love this site already. If you click on each zone, it'll give you what that player shot from that area in a particular game and how many points he scored there.

The most depressing thing that this site shows about Smoove, is that he has MAJOR trouble scoring within that 5 - 15 foot zone ( 13 - 59 . . 22% FG ). This illustrates that he has A LOT of work to do as an inside player, as well as his outside game. I have noticed that he does hit the top of the key jumper on occasion, and this at least backs that up ( 42% clip ). Mid-range, it'll do him good to be around that 40% mark, while improving to close to 47% from inside 15 feet.

It also proves that as long as he plays the 4, and gets to the rim, he'll be OK, because he can use his athletic ability to his full advantage. But I see now why he is trying to work on all facets of his game down in Houston.

Smoove should really try to pattern his game after Shawn Marion. Marion has the same shortcomings as a shooter/scorer, but he's worked hard at overcoming those obstacles by becoming a demon on the boards.

Other observations:

Chill: Needs to be a little more consistent from the left side, since that's where he shoots most from. But he's a "get to the rim" type player that plays to his strengths.

Speedy: Ugh!! UNACCEPTABLE! If he shoots like this in NOvember, Lue or Law will have his job and Speedy will become a defensive specialist, seeing 15 - 20 minutes a game. His history doesn't show this trend though, so let's hope that he shot bad because of the injuries, and not because his game is in decline.

JJ: JJ is the ish. To have 3 of the 4 inside zones in the red, means that you are a very efficient player when you get that shot on the inside. And remember that FT shooting thread about JJ? This shot chart puts me at ease even more about that. Only troubling thing I see here, is that JJ has a little trouble from the right mid-range side. ( It's average for everyone else, but a little below average for JJ ) Ironically, he's money from the 3 point line from that side.

ZaZa: Although the zones don't indicate cold shoting, the fact that ZaZa doesn't shoot over 40% in any of the zones from 5 - 15 feet, is grounds for concern. And it's the biggest proponent for starting Horford at center. And to me, he's taking waaaay too many shots from the 15 - 23 foot range.

Salim: When I was evaulating Marvin and his shooting back in January, I'd also look at other players. One of those players was Salim. When he misses, he's rushing his shot and is a little off balance. The mid-range jumper is the key to Salim being a successful role player in this league, not the 3 pointer. He shot the mid-range jumper extremely well in those final 10 games, but overall, he shot aound 40% from the 15 - 23 feet range. While Smoove probably needs to raise his mid-range shooting to the 40% mark, Salim probably needs to be around the 45 - 47% mark.

Marvin: Strange to see Marvin's scoring around the rim take a dive ( 48% ), compared to the 54% he shot last year. His shooting from the 5 - 15 feet range improved, although it could be better. Ditto for his mid-range shooting, although he became a much better shooter from the elbow than he was last year. If he becomes a better finisher around the rim, Marvin has a chance to really have a breakout year next year. If not, expect the same from Marvin, as he occasionally knocks down the mid-range jumper, while looking extremely awkward going to the hole.

Shelden: He likes the right side of the court, so those cool zones from the left side dont concern me much. What does concern me, is that he shouldn't be THAT BAD from the left side, especially within 15 feet. If Shelden has ANY SHOT of shooting 50% next season, he'll need to either become highly efficient from the right side from 20 feet and in . . or he'll have to be able to do what he did in those final 10 games of the season, and get to the rim by making himself available to be open, or make a move in the post to get a lay-up.

As a team: It's troubling to me to see the Hawks only shooting around 40% from the 5 - 15 feet range. Even our 54% shooting around the basket, is in the low range compared to the rest of the league. Add that to the fact that we only shoot like 38% from mid-range, and you see why we lose games offensively.

These are the EXACT reasons why we got Horford and Law. Horford should improve our efficiency from 15 feet and in, while Law can knock down the mid-range jumper and get to the hole.

Smoove must make a commitment to take the ball inside, especially when his jumper isn't falling. And Marvin must also become a better scorer within that 15 foot range. If this happens, we're playoff bound. If it doesn't, the rookies will have to step up BIG right away.

[shug94]

I thought it was interesting to look at how other players went against the hawks.

Dirk Nowitzki had 7 hot zones, one neutral zone and only 2 cold zones.

Mike Dunleavy Jr had 5 hot zones (all of which he shot 100% in) and three cold zones.

Chris Bosh had 5 hot zones, and 5 cold zones, but shot a LOT more in his hot zones.

Tim Duncan had 3 and 3, but scored the vast majority of his points right near the basket.

I think this just shows that one of the things we need the most on this team is some solid interior defense! Hopefully a healthy Shelden and Big Al Horford can help us out there.

Also, I agree that Speedy is quite terrible. Hopefully Law can improve our offensive efficiency!