pimp Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 1st Team C - Duncan PF - Garnett SF - Prince SG - Battier PG - Rondo 2nd Team C - Camby PF - R. Wallace SF - B. Bowen SG - Bell PG - Dooling 3rd Team C - D. Howard PF - Hayes SF - Pierce SG - Bryant PG - Billups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted April 12, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: 1st Team C - Duncan PF - Garnett SF - Prince SG - Battier PG - Rondo 2nd Team C - Camby PF - R. Wallace SF - B. Bowen SG - Bell PG - Dooling 3rd Team C - D. Howard PF - Hayes SF - Pierce SG - Bryant PG - Billups All on playoff teams! What a coincidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrumph Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: 1st Team C - Duncan PF - Garnett SF - Prince SG - Battier PG - Rondo 2nd Team C - Camby PF - R. Wallace SF - B. Bowen SG - Bell PG - Dooling 3rd Team C - D. Howard PF - Hayes SF - Pierce SG - Bryant PG - Billups It amazes me that JSmoove can be 2nd in the league in blocked shots two years in a row and not even get a mention on this list. I wonder if he was 1st in blocks instead of 2nd behind Camby would he still be ignored by the mainstream press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massaf1 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Josh Smith is a great weak-side defender, but sometimes has a hard time with the guys he is matched up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Dude, he can't even defend David Lee. Why should he get mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted April 12, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 ...because he is not very good at defending his man one on one. Steals and Blocks does not mean you are an excellent defender. He is not bad but he is not all defensive. I don't even think he is the best defender on the team. Personally I think both Horford and West are better defenders right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted April 12, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: It amazes me that JSmoove can be 2nd in the league in blocked shots two years in a row and not even get a mention on this list. I wonder if he was 1st in blocks instead of 2nd behind Camby would he still be ignored by the mainstream press. Block shots are only a small part of playing good defense. Stopping your man from scoring is the primary goal! Allowing your man to score 30 at a high percentage while blocking his shot twice is not widely considered good defense. The Hawks need to improve their individual defense from top to bottom! Position defense is much more effective than a block shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 12, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: 1st Team C - Duncan PF - Garnett SF - Prince SG - Battier PG - Rondo 2nd Team C - Camby PF - R. Wallace SF - B. Bowen SG - Bell PG - Dooling 3rd Team C - D. Howard PF - Hayes SF - Pierce SG - Bryant PG - Billups UK representing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: Allowing your man to score 30 at a high percentage while blocking his shot twice is not widely considered good defense. The Hawks need to improve their individual defense from top to bottom! Position defense is much more effective than a block shot! true dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foeteen14 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 name a player other than amare that has had his way with josh. i can't really think of anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Drew Gooden He has always had his way against Josh. Boozer has owed him in the past too i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody79 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Josh struggles at times because he's playing true power forwards. For a small forward playing power forward, I'd say he's done a good job defensively for the most part this year. The two guys mentioned (Drew Gooden and Carlos Boozer) are both true power forwards. The fact that he's banging with these guys night in and night out has to be taken into consideration when analyzing Josh's performance defensively this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 12, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: Josh struggles at times because he's playing true power forwards. For a small forward playing power forward, I'd say he's done a good job defensively for the most part this year. The two guys mentioned (Drew Gooden and Carlos Boozer) are both true power forwards. The fact that he's banging with these guys night in and night out has to be taken into consideration when analyzing Josh's performance defensively this year. He does much better defending PFs than he does defending SFs like Richard Jefferson or Rashard Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Man Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 While I agree that Smoove struggles with PF matchups, I think he should get more credit for the impact of his mere presence. There are so many times where he just erases penetration, alters shots or intimidates without blocking the shot. Not to mention he averages 1.5 steals as a combo F. And to have Dooling on the 2nd Team with his 18 minutes a game...over Billups yet? Bowen the overrated-dirty-cheap shot-hatchet man who gets a free pass to foul at will every game? Paul Pierce? HOLLINGER IS A JOKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Quote: It amazes me that JSmoove can be 2nd in the league in blocked shots two years in a row and not even get a mention on this list. I wonder if he was 1st in blocks instead of 2nd behind Camby would he still be ignored by the mainstream press. He DID mention JSmoove. You see what kind of problem you made Pimp without providing a LINK. lol Here is the LINK POWER FORWARDS Honorable mention: Anderson Varejao, Boris Diaw, Josh Smith, Lamar Odom "Smith (2.83) is an amazing shot-blocker, and the other parts of his defensive game are rounding into shape … but they're not quite there yet. His lapses are definitely much fewer and farther between than in years past, so give him another year or two, and he'll probably climb into the top three." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody79 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 I've seen Josh Smith match up with perimeter players many times this year, and he's done a good job. He had Josh Howard literally scared to drive the ball on him in that game against Dallas(in Dallas) earlier this year. What's more is, Josh's perimeter defense is going to get better. The fact that he plays big in big games shows he's a keeper no matter what forward spot he plays. Al Horford just happens to be a very good player and will be a GREAT player at the 4 spot. I think moving Josh over to the three spot( something BK mentioned) is the hawks best bet next year. You can't teach size and you can't teach heart. In these final games that decide the hawks fate, we're seeing just exactly who the big game players are that the hawks need to keep, and which players are not. We're seeing the difference between guys who show up and take the lead and guys who just come along for the ride. Josh Smith is a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foeteen14 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 the real joke here is pierce, he can't be talking about paul pierce can he. i could've sworn this guy was allergic to defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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