Tracking Minutes 2009-10

[AHF]

Here is a thread that will be updated throughout the season. I figured it would be interesting track minutes since many of us think that management of minutes for the long-term is a key failing of Woodson and something he has publicly vowed to improve.

I am going to track minutes for the following. Feel free to add anything you would like:

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 17 games 38.6 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 5 of last 7 games (8 of 17 overall)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 17 games - 30.4 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of last 7 games (5 of 17 overall)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 17 games - 8.8 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 10 (59% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 -

19 -

20 -

Games 16-20: Avg (incomplete but 28 minutes per game so far)

[macdaddy]

Great thread. It shows the trend that many have been pointing out. If history is an indicator this is not a blip but will be the norm as long as we don't have injuries. To me the real indicator is bench play beyond Crawford and Zaza. Z will get his minutes often because of foul trouble.

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 18 games 37.9 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 5 of last 8 games (8 of 18 overall)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 18 games - 29.9 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of last 8 games (5 of 18 overall)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 18 games - 9.6 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 10 (56% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!)

19 -

20 -

Games 16-20: Avg (incomplete but 48 minutes per game so far)

Edited December 3, 2009 by AHF

[Buzzard]

Great post! This will be interesting to keep up with. I do think last nights game might be another record: 87 minutes: most ever given to bench players by Woody.

One point though, I think it is imperative that Teague get ten or more minutes a game. Five in each half would be the minimum to keep him sharp and in the game IMO. I do understand the less than five and change though, as they may as well be DNPs for all intents and purposes.

Edited December 3, 2009 by Buzzard

[AUhawksfan]

Yeah I like this. Good to see Bibby's minutes are down and especially Joe's at this point (even if only slightly). Hopefully the trend continues.

[JackB1]

Joe still gets too many minutes and Woody still deosn't use his bench enough unless they are blowouts.

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 19 games 38.3 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 6 of last 9 games (9 of 19 overall - 47.4%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 19 games - 30.2 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of last 9 games (5 of 19 overall - 26%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 19 games - 8.2 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 11 (58% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!)

19 - 38.5minutes

20 -

Games 16-20: Avg (incomplete but 45.3 minutes per game so far)

Avg - 46 mpg through 12.05.09

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 58 mpg through 12.05.09)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 71 mpg through 12.05.09)

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 63%

Edited December 5, 2009 by AHF

[AUhawksfan]

Bump. Can we lock this?

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 20 games 38.6 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of second 10 games (10 of 20 overall - 50%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 19 games - 29.7 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of second 10 games (5 of 20 overall - 25%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 20 games - 8.0 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 12 (60% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!)

19 - 38.5minutes

20 - 44 minutes

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

Avg - 46 mpg through 12.06.09

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 58 mpg through 12.05.09)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 71 mpg through 12.05.09)

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 65% (13 of 20)

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 21 games 38.1 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of second 10 games, 0 of third 10 games (10 of 21 overall - 48%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 21 games - 29.2 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of second 10 games, 0 of third 10 games (5 of 21 overall - 24%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 21 games - 8.7 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 12 (57% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!)

19 - 38.5minutes

20 - 44 minutes

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes

22 - minutes

23 - minutes

24 - minutes

25 - minutes

Games 21-25: Avg minutes

Avg - 47.9 mpg through 12.10.09

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 62% (13 of 21)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 58 mpg through 12.05.09)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 71 mpg through 12.05.09)

[Sothron]

These recent blowouts are at least giving JJ some rest.

[tremor]

These recent blowouts are at least giving JJ some rest.

Agreed but I'd like to see Hunter giving Smoove a little more rest.

[DJlaysitup]

These recent blowouts are at least giving JJ some rest.

...and I'm happy about that Soth...but I think it's situational with Woody.

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 23 games 37.3 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of second 10 games, 0 of third 10 games (10 of 23 overall - 43%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 23 games - 28.5 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of second 10 games, 0 of third 10 games (5 of 23 overall - 22%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 23 games - 9.9 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 12 (52% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes

2 - 53 minutes

3 - 62 minutes

4 - 26 minutes

5 - 41.5 minutes

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes

7 - 54 minutes

8 - 31 minutes

9 - 44 minutes

10 - 63 minutes

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT)

12 - 41 minutes

13 - 29 minutes

14 - 50 minutes

15 - 35 minutes

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes

17 - 21 minutes

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!)

19 - 38.5minutes

20 - 44 minutes

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes

22 - 79 minutes

23 - 63 minutes

24 - minutes

25 - minutes

Games 21-25: Avg 75 minutes

Avg - 53.6 mpg through 12.14.09

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 57% (13 of 23)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 58 mpg through 12.05.09)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 71 mpg through 12.05.09)

* * * *

Very nice to see these numbers trending in the right direction recently with these blowout wins. If Woodson keeps giving Teague some time, he will soon be under 50% for games with 5 minutes and change or less.

[AHF]

Time for an update:

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 32 games 37.4 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of games 11-20, 2 of games 21-30, 1 of games 31-40 (13 of 32 overall - 41%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 32 games - 28.5 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of games 11-20, 0 of games 21-30, 2 of games 31-40 (7 of 32 overall - 22%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 32 games - 9.4 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 16 (50% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes W

2 - 53 minutes W

3 - 62 minutes L

4 - 26 minutes W

5 - 41.5 minutes W

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes L

7 - 54 minutes W

8 - 31 minutes W

9 - 44 minutes W

10 - 63 minutes W

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT) W

12 - 41 minutes W

13 - 29 minutes W

14 - 50 minutes L

15 - 35 minutes L

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes W

17 - 21 minutes L

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!) W

19 - 38.5minutes L

20 - 44 minutes W

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes W

22 - 79 minutes W

23 - 63 minutes W

24 - 75 minutes W

25 - 76 minutes W

Games 21-25: Avg 75 minutes

26 - 38 minutes L

27 - 59 minutes W

28 - 39 minutes L

29 - 53 minutes W

30 - 36 minutes L

Games 26-30: Avg 45 minutes

31 - 35 minutes L

32 - 30 minutes L

33 -

34 -

35 -

Games 31-35: Avg 33 minutes

Atlanta's Bench Beyond the Top 6 Avg - 50.7 mpg through 1.04.10

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 56% (18 of 32)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 63 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 78 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Portland's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 69 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Denver's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 67 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Dallas's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 65 mpg through 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Wins: ~54 mpg (through 21 wins 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Losses: ~42 mpg (through 11 losses 1.04.10)

[AHF]

As with our play, our player minutes are not trending very well lately. We are shortening the rotation as our top guys are having a series of remarkably ineffective games. Hopefully, this all picks back up and we don't end up burning people out. (As an aside, I am not arguing that playing our bench 70 minutes would have let us beat the Heat or anything -- just that we are trending towards the same problems we ran into last season where players were physically tapped out by the post-season due to lack of bench support. Other teams similar to the the Hawks in ability use their bench to pace their players over 82 games more than we do...at least so far.)

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 33 games 37.4 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of games 11-20, 2 of games 21-30, 1 of games 31-40 (13 of 33 overall - 39%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 33 games - 28.5 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of games 11-20, 0 of games 21-30, 2 of games 31-40 (7 of 33 overall - 21%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 32 games - 9.2 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 17 (52% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes W

2 - 53 minutes W

3 - 62 minutes L

4 - 26 minutes W

5 - 41.5 minutes W

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes L

7 - 54 minutes W

8 - 31 minutes W

9 - 44 minutes W

10 - 63 minutes W

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT) W

12 - 41 minutes W

13 - 29 minutes W

14 - 50 minutes L

15 - 35 minutes L

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes W

17 - 21 minutes L

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!) W

19 - 38.5minutes L

20 - 44 minutes W

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes W

22 - 79 minutes W

23 - 63 minutes W

24 - 75 minutes W

25 - 76 minutes W

Games 21-25: Avg 75 minutes

26 - 38 minutes L

27 - 59 minutes W

28 - 39 minutes L

29 - 53 minutes W

30 - 36 minutes L

Games 26-30: Avg 45 minutes

31 - 35 minutes L

32 - 30 minutes L

33 - 38 minutes L

34 -

35 -

Games 31-35: Avg 34 minutes

Atlanta's Bench Beyond the Top 6 Avg - 50.3 mpg through 1.05.10

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 58% (19 of 33)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 63 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 78 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Portland's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 69 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Denver's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 67 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Dallas's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 65 mpg through 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Wins: ~54 mpg (through 21 wins 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Losses: ~42 mpg (through 12 losses 1.05.10)

Edited January 5, 2010 by AHF

[JackB1]

It doesn't seem like Joe is getting more rest than last year.

Woodson needs to play Teague more...thats for sure.

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 38 games 37.3 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of games 11-20, 2 of games 21-30, 3 of games 31-40 (15 of 38 overall - 39%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 38 games - 27.7 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of games 11-20, 0 of games 21-30, 2 of games 31-40 (7 of 38 overall - 18%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 38 games - 9.3 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 19 (50% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes W

2 - 53 minutes W

3 - 62 minutes L

4 - 26 minutes W

5 - 41.5 minutes W

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes L

7 - 54 minutes W

8 - 31 minutes W

9 - 44 minutes W

10 - 63 minutes W

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT) W

12 - 41 minutes W

13 - 29 minutes W

14 - 50 minutes L

15 - 35 minutes L

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes W

17 - 21 minutes L

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!) W

19 - 38.5minutes L

20 - 44 minutes W

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes W

22 - 79 minutes W

23 - 63 minutes W

24 - 75 minutes W

25 - 76 minutes W

Games 21-25: Avg 75 minutes

26 - 38 minutes L

27 - 59 minutes W

28 - 39 minutes L

29 - 53 minutes W

30 - 36 minutes L

Games 26-30: Avg 45 minutes

31 - 35 minutes L

32 - 30 minutes L

33 - 38 minutes L

34 - 80 minutes W

35 - 31 minutes W

Games 31-35: Avg 43 minutes

36 - 75 minutes L

37 - 24 minutes W

38 - 31 minutes W

39 -

40 -

Games 36-40: Avg 43 minutes

Atlanta's Bench Beyond the Top 6 Avg - 50.1 mpg through 1.14.10

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 58% (22 of 38)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 63 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 78 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Portland's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 69 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Denver's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 67 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Dallas's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 65 mpg through 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Wins: ~52 mpg (through 25 wins 1.14.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Losses: ~45 mpg (through 13 losses 1.14.10)

[AHF]

Category #1 - Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson through 40 games 37.7 mpg

40+ minute games: 3 through first 10 games, 7 of games 11-20, 2 of games 21-30, 5 of games 31-40 (17 of 40 overall - 43%)

Category #2 - Mike Bibby

Mike Bibby through 40 games - 27.8 mpg (down from 34 mpg last season)

35+ minute games: 1 through first 10 games, 4 of games 11-20, 0 of games 21-30, 2 of games 31-40 (7 of 40 overall - 18%)

Category #3 - Jeff Teague

Jeff Teague through 40 games - 8.9 mpg

Games with 5 minutes and change or less: 21 (53% of total games)

Category #4 - Bench Play (beyond top 6 players)

Non-Crawford Bench (collectively):

1 - 56 minutes W

2 - 53 minutes W

3 - 62 minutes L

4 - 26 minutes W

5 - 41.5 minutes W

Games 1-5: Avg 48 minutes

6 - 73 minutes L

7 - 54 minutes W

8 - 31 minutes W

9 - 44 minutes W

10 - 63 minutes W

Games 6-10: Avg 53 minutes

11 - 36 minutes (OT) W

12 - 41 minutes W

13 - 29 minutes W

14 - 50 minutes L

15 - 35 minutes L

Games 11-15: Avg 38 minutes

16 - 35 minutes W

17 - 21 minutes L

18 - 87 minutes (historic blowout!) W

19 - 38.5minutes L

20 - 44 minutes W

Games 16-20: Avg 45 minutes

21 - 84 minutes W

22 - 79 minutes W

23 - 63 minutes W

24 - 75 minutes W

25 - 76 minutes W

Games 21-25: Avg 75 minutes

26 - 38 minutes L

27 - 59 minutes W

28 - 39 minutes L

29 - 53 minutes W

30 - 36 minutes L

Games 26-30: Avg 45 minutes

31 - 35 minutes L

32 - 30 minutes L

33 - 38 minutes L

34 - 80 minutes W

35 - 31 minutes W

Games 31-35: Avg 43 minutes

36 - 75 minutes L

37 - 24 minutes W

38 - 31 minutes W

39 - 24 minutes W

40 - 39 minutes L

Games 36-40: Avg 43 minutes

Atlanta's Bench Beyond the Top 6 Avg - 49.4 mpg through 1.19.10

% of games with fewer than 51 minutes - 60% (24 of 40)

(Boston's bench beyond their top 6 of Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, Shelden Williams, Brian Scalabrine, Lester Hudson, J.R. Giddens, and Bill Walker averages 63 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Cleveland's bench beyond top 6 of J.J. Hickson (mpg don't rate in top 7), Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon, Delonte West, Darnell Jackson, Danny Green, Jawad Williams, and Coby Karl average 78 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Portland's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 69 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Denver's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 67 mpg through 1.04.10)

(Dallas's bench beyond their top 6 in minutes played averages 65 mpg through 1.04.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Wins: ~51 mpg (through 26 wins 1.19.10)

Avg MPG by Bench In Hawks' Losses: ~45 mpg (through 14 losses 1.19.10)

[TheTruth]

Stick a fork in Teague's development this year...it ain't happening with 8.9 MPG. And it is not like it will get better as we approach the playoffs. *Sigh*

And we really need someone to take Mo Evans' minutes, and would love someone else who could be a reliable rebounding big off the bench to take Zaza's minutes. Oh well, one can only dream, right?