Bonkers Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Once his athleticism fades he will be beyond Awful!!! He has no fundamentals to fall back on. He will only get worse IMO I think once his athleticism is gone he will be one of the most putrid players in the NBA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted February 23, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 How often does Josh wow us with his athleticism these days? Exactly. He hasn't been that string-bean dunk contest champion for about 3 seasons now. He still posterizes guys, but it's not like he is jumping out of his shoes to do so... And for his defense, I'm not worried. If guys like bad knees Deshawn and Dahntay Jones can still play defense at a high level at 32, then it should be no problem for Smoove... At least I hope.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeman Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I can still see josh being a service-able player in his early 30's as long as he takes care of his body. He has some instincts that don't go away like his timing on blocking shots, and his court vision with passing. Players find ways to recreate themselves all the time at that age. Not necessarily saying I want to see that with the Hawks though. If he still played like he did as a rookie then you might have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 That's why I think that he's been taking these jump shots this year. He's probably committed himself to growing that part of the game so that when his athleticism does go out he can have that to fall back on... I just wish he would wait before he really starts to decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Exactly. He hasn't been that string-bean dunk contest champion for about 3 seasons now. He still posterizes guys, but it's not like he is jumping out of his shoes to do so... And for his defense, I'm not worried. If guys like bad knees Deshawn and Dahntay Jones can still play defense at a high level at 32, then it should be no problem for Smoove... At least I hope.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell you need to factor in their specific roles and MPG....or just games played for that matter so I wouldn't fall on that comparison between bench fodder and a guy angling for a much, MUCH bigger contract. A marked decline is worth discussing but with that in mind I don't think Ferry will really offer the 5th year on a deal unless it is considerably low annually. As a whole, during the short stint of the new CBA, teams have been trending towards overpaying guys but on shorter contracts. If reports are to be believed then Ferry already had no issue giving Josh a max extension but that was for 3 years. Maybe he can get talked into going to 4 years but I definitely doubt he'd go up to that 5th year at that dollar amount. Edited February 23, 2013 by MaceCase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB1 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) What exactly is this athleticism that Josh has that everyone speaks about? Is it the fact that he could jump so high??? Josh seems very goofy and uncoordinated out there at times. He loses his balance a lot, tries to dribble kicks the ball off his feet, throws bad passes into the stands, cant hit a foul shot,etc etc. How is this person athletic? I am tired of hearing about how Josh is so athletic. You guys need to look the word up in the dictionarySent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD Edited February 23, 2013 by JackB1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureGreatness Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Josh hasn't been athletic for about 3 or so years. Didn't Kenny Smith say he was losing athleticism during the bulls series?. I haven't seen him jump high or see him doing anything "athletic" in a few years. he'll dunk on someone here and there. It's not hard for a 6'9 guy to catch lobs and dunk. I think people say he is athletic because generally if someone is is a very, very good player but not a fundamentalist we assume they are athletic. Maybe josh plays off of instinct and good vision. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Once his athleticism fades, Josh will still have a long career left of jacking up 75-footers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag82 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I love the insinuation that he is taking all these long jumpers because he is trying to work on his game.Dude is lazy on offense. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHawks89 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Same could be said about LeBron James. He will have to rely on his jump shot and the refs. But then again, Josh & LeBrons defense will still be above average, and I can see their assist numbers rise too.I love the insinuation that he is taking all these long jumpers because he is trying to work on his game.Dude is lazy on offense. That's it. People who say Josh is lazy is funny because you have to hustle way more on defense than offense. Trust me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Josh will still be a serviceable role-player at least, particularly if he moves over to the 3. Marion is still solid at the age of 34 and his game is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Exactly. He hasn't been that string-bean dunk contest champion for about 3 seasons now. He still posterizes guys, but it's not like he is jumping out of his shoes to do so... And for his defense, I'm not worried. If guys like bad knees Deshawn and Dahntay Jones can still play defense at a high level at 32, then it should be no problem for Smoove... At least I hope.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPoor comparison. Deshawn and Dahntay make their money on perimeter defense and not letting guys beat them off the dribble.People beat Josh off the dribble all the time......he just has the athletic ability to catch up with them at the rim and challenge the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Josh will still be a serviceable role-player at least, particularly if he moves over to the 3. Marion is still solid at the age of 34 and his game is similar.Josh will be worse at SF as he ages......his perimeter defense will even be worse.Your comparing a 6'7'' body to a 6'9'' body.The last think I want is to be stuck with him when he is 31 and 32 unless the contract is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB1 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I love the insinuation that he is taking all these long jumpers because he is trying to work on his game.Dude is lazy on offense. That's it.He's just all around lazy. period. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermariowest Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 How often does Josh wow us with his athleticism these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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