Explain team chemistry with the Dwight, CP3, Horford

[hawkster911]

This years Lakers is a great example of team chemistry failure. Kobe, Nash, Gasol, Dwight, ArtestWhen Dwight played for Orlando, they played well with Turk, Dwight, and a barrage of 3-point specialist.Can someone please clearly explain to me basketball knowledge how Dwight, Horford, CP3, j.jenkins, Lou Williams, and the new coach creates good team chemistry...I'll make my first pass, and please chime in.PG - CP3 is a dribble penetrator and a playmaker. He can create many opportunities for Dwight and Korver(when Korver played for the bulls, d.rose and him played extremely well together)SG - j. Jenkins is a pure spot up shooter. When players are double teaming Dwight or CP3, Jenkins will thrive in this positionSF - ?PF - Horford has the mid range jumper and opens the floor for Dwight to do his damage, plus he's a rebounding assetC - Dwight plays his position as a dominant center who can attack the rim or passes to the perimeter6th man - Lou Williams is a pure shooter ala Jamal Crawford type

[buckeye242424]

This years Lakers is a great example of team chemistry failure. Kobe, Nash, Gasol, Dwight, ArtestWhen Dwight played for Orlando, they played well with Turk, Dwight, and a barrage of 3-point specialist.Can someone please clearly explain to me basketball knowledge how Dwight, Horford, CP3, j.jenkins, Lou Williams, and the new coach creates good team chemistry...I'll make my first pass, and please chime in.PG - CP3 is a dribble penetrator and a playmaker. He can create many opportunities for Dwight and Korver(when Korver played for the bulls, d.rose and him played extremely well together)SG - j. Jenkins is a pure spot up shooter. When players are double teaming Dwight or CP3, Jenkins will thrive in this positionSF - ?PF - Horford has the mid range jumper and opens the floor for Dwight to do his damage, plus he's a rebounding assetC - Dwight plays his position as a dominant center who can attack the rim or passes to the perimeter6th man - Lou Williams is a pure shooter ala Jamal Crawford type

Team chemistry failure on the Lakers this year was strictly on coaching philosophy. D'antoni was the worst hire for the age and expectations of those players to run that much....

[Guest]

Team chemistry failure on the Lakers this year was strictly on coaching philosophy. D'antoni was the worst hire for the age and expectations of those players to run that much....

Yep -his 3 pointers before post up philosophy was not conducive to his personnel.

[Wretch]

Team chemistry failure on the Lakers this year was strictly on coaching philosophy. D'antoni was the worst hire for the age and expectations of those players to run that much....

Y'know...

You watch millionaire basketball "experts" make decisions like that and you scratch your head. The fact that DiAntoni was interviewing for the job made no sense to me...let alone his actual hire.

This is why I pay very little attention to the people who believe fans have no room to critique...since we're not, y'know..."expert" NBA executives that actually get paid to do their job. This is one of the things that REALLLLLLLLLY pissed me off about Billy Knight. On top of having that sort of attitude, he was a complete pompous ass about it.

[Diesel]

This years Lakers is a great example of team chemistry failure. Kobe, Nash, Gasol, Dwight, Artest

When Dwight played for Orlando, they played well with Turk, Dwight, and a barrage of 3-point specialist.

Can someone please clearly explain to me basketball knowledge how Dwight, Horford, CP3, j.jenkins, Lou Williams, and the new coach creates good team chemistry...

I'll make my first pass, and please chime in.

PG - CP3 is a dribble penetrator and a playmaker. He can create many opportunities for Dwight and Korver(when Korver played for the bulls, d.rose and him played extremely well together)

SG - j. Jenkins is a pure spot up shooter. When players are double teaming Dwight or CP3, Jenkins will thrive in this position

SF - ?

PF - Horford has the mid range jumper and opens the floor for Dwight to do his damage, plus he's a rebounding asset

C - Dwight plays his position as a dominant center who can attack the rim or passes to the perimeter

6th man - Lou Williams is a pure shooter ala Jamal Crawford type

You are right to mention that there's a difference in style and needs... but let me point a few things out.

The biggest problem in LAL were these:

From his Jackson days, Kobe was trained to be a primary ball handler and a scorer... i.e. Triangle Philosophy. Mike Brown tried to transform the Lakers into an ISO team. That doesn't work because the Lakers have too many other people that need to score. The other problem with the Lakers is that they didn't have consistent threats from outside. SO therefore, Dwight becomes underutilized.

In Orlando, Dwight was in the right place. He was the focus of the offense and he could throw out to shooters. Nelson was a good enough PG to keep the ball moving but he didn't set up players for scores. Dwight was mainly responsible for that through his presence. That's why we beat them. We stopped focusing on stopping Dwight with our whole team and focused on shutting down everybody else. We put the pressure on Nelson to make something happen with everybody else. So that when they finally went to Arenas and co after Dwight had scored at will all day, those guys were cold and they got behind and we won.

[*]Dwight needs to play beside a PF who doesn't crowd the low post. That's Horf. They tried to recreate that in LAL but Pau is a low post scorer too. Putting him high post only killed his game.

[*]Dwight needs to play with Shooters that he can throw the ball out to.

[*]Dwight needs a PG who can set up other players while he works for position. That's Paul. For all of Nash's greatness, his gift is finding people in a moving offense. It's too complicated for him to find a guy posted up underneath and do the repost with him. Better for Nash is a pick and roll with a lot of moving parts. The problem in LAL is that Nash was hurt most of the year and then when they went PNR they did it with Dwight. My suggestion is that You do it with Horf and Let Dwight work for position so that he can become either the primary or secondary scorer. Chris Paul can handle having several moving parts of the offense going at once: two man game with Dwight on one side, PNR with Horf on the other... Korver in the corner. Lou Will waiting to slash.

[*]Dwight needs to be the starting point of the offense. Dwight is not Hibbert or Chandler. As a C, he needs to get the ball with designed plays. IF that means backside picks. IF that means alley opps. If that means low post post ups... His best position is starting off with the ball. Horf is a second option.

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[capstone21]

Kobe dominated the ball and Nash is not meant to play off the ball.

[PaceRam]

Team chemistry failure on the Lakers this year was strictly on coaching philosophy. D'antoni was the worst hire for the age and expectations of those players to run that much....

Can you please remind me why the Lakers didn't rehire Phil Jackson (Seemed like a no-brainier to me!)? I thought I did read where Jackson did say he did have some interest in coaching them again.

[DrReality]

chemistry is coaching, players commitment to play together, philosophy, etc and more of those things were against the Lakers. It was Kobe's team and he was the one who created or killed the chemistry.

[Alex]

It's simple. Josh and Dwight are pals and both from around the Atlanta area. Paul is from the south as well. Therefore they would all be awesome together. Al is a Florida Gator which is in the south as well, so that is how he would play awesome too. Did I miss anything?

[DJlaysitup]

Kobe dominated the ball and Nash is not meant to play off the ball.

Agreed...Nash was a worse fit than D12.

[buckeye242424]

Can you please remind me why the Lakers didn't rehire Phil Jackson (Seemed like a no-brainier to me!)? I thought I did read where Jackson did say he did have some interest in coaching them again.

I don't know? He was on The Herd show yesterday, and I was on my lunch break and listened. He pretty much called out "the Lakers Coach" and said he didn't utilize Dwight or Pau enough...and pretty much blamed Kobe's injury on too many minutes. Phil wanted to come back with that group...My guess is, with Phil being engaged to Jerry Buss's daughter, there's some kind of drama there. And with his new book coming out where he calls out Kobe....there's something there where they didn't want him back. But hiring D'antoni was such a bad move for the players they have...