Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 The Cleveland Cavaliers, regardless of whether they make theirlong-rumored trade for Kevin Love, are considered thepresumptive favorites in the Eastern Conference. The Cavs are followed closely by the Chicago Bulls in most circles, but after that, the East is a bit of a jumbled mess. The Toronto Raptors, Washington Wizards, Charlotte Hornets, Miami Heat and Atlanta Hawks are all teams of roughly similar quality, with all projected to finish with between 42 and 47 wins, according to ESPN's Summer Forecast. Legitimate arguments can be made in favor of each team (I've alreadygone to bat for the Hornets' bona fides in the wake of their Lance Stephenson signing), but today we're here to cape for the Hawks, who at 40-1 somehow have only the 10th-best odds to win the Eastern Conference, according to Bovada. Yes, the Hawks finished only 38-44 last season. But they also had the third-best record in the Eastern Conference when Al Horford went down for the season with a torn pectoral in late December. John Bazemore/Associated Press The Hawks were 16-13 after Horford played his last game. That .552 winning percentage translates into a 45-37 record over the course of an 82-game season, a seven win improvement over last year's squad. Had the Hawks won 45 games last season, they'd have finished fifth in the Eastern Conference rather than eighth, and would have wound up with a first-round matchup with the Chicago Bulls rather than theIndiana Pacers. As it is, the Hawks gave Indy all they could handle, but with how easily the Wizards dispatched of the Bulls in the opening round, it's reasonable to expect Atlanta might have had a similar shot. If the Hawks were coming off a 45-win campaign that ended in a second-round appearance, they'd be thought of a lot differently than they are right now. It's arguable whether they'd have made it that far had Horford not gotten injured, but the numbers clearly show a team that became much different—mostly for the worse—after its best player went down. Before Horford's Injury After Horford's Injury O-Rtg 104.7 102.7 D-Rtg 102.3 105.0 Net Rtg +2.4 -2.3 FG% 47.1% 45.0% 3PA 23.9 26.9 3PT% 38.2% 35.4% AST 25.9 24.3 Scoring Margin +2.2 -1.9 Before Horford's injury, the Hawks had a per-possession scoring margin of plus-2.4, which would have been fourth-best in the East and sat them between the Dallas Mavericks and Chicago Bulls at 12th-best in the league, per NBA.com. That's not elite by any means, but it's good enough to be considered solidly above-average and a clear mid-tier playoff team. From Horford's injury through the end of the season, Atlanta's scoring margin flipped over, with a minus-2.3 points per 100 possessions mark that would have sat them between the Denver Nuggets and Sacramento Kings for 21st in the league. It's difficult to pin a swing that large on any one player, but Horford is Atlanta's best and biggest offensive focal point, as well as its best interior defender. Horford was using nearly one-quarter of Atlanta's possessions while on the floor when he went down, according to Basketball-Reference, and registered a true shooting percentage of .588 with those possessions, an excellent mark. After he was injured, those possessions had to be redistributed, and the results were not quite as good. Much of them were picked up by Paul Millsap, who did about as good a Horford impression as he could but still struggled relative to his production before Horford went down. Before Horford's Injury After Horford's Injury USG 23.6 27.2 TS% .562 TS% .536 TS% Indeed, Millsap was a much more effective player when he was able to share the court with Horford. When Horford was on the floor, Millsapshot 49.2 percent from the field on 13.4 field-goal attempts per 36 minutes, as well as 40.5 percent from three on 2.0 attempts per 36 minutes. With Horford on the bench, Millsap took more shots—15.9 per 36 overall and 3.5 from three—but converted at far lower rates, shooting 45.2 percent from the field and 34.9 percent from three. In fact, according to NBA.com, the only place on the court Millsapdidn't shoot better with Horford on the court with him was the back half of the paint, outside the restricted area. via NBA.com Horford on Court Horford off Court Restricted Area 65.0% 58.3% Paint (non-RA) 41.7% 43.6% Mid-Range 34.4% 30.9% Corner 3 44.4% 29.2% Above Break 3 36.8% 35.6% While Horford is not quite a Dirk Nowitzki-esque gravitational force on the floor, he does draw extra defensive attention due to his ability to score from basically any area inside the three-point line. Take a look at his scoring heat maps from the last two seasons, courtesy of Basketball-Reference. Credit: Basketball-Reference As you can see, he was even experimenting with the corner three-point shot before getting hurt last season, yet another weapon in his vast arsenal. If Horford becomes a respectable threat from deep—and he did shoot a perfectly acceptable 4-of-11 last season—that just moves the Hawks one step closer to coach Mike Budenholzer's dream scenario of having outside shooting at every position on the floor at all times. The Hawks took firing away from outside to a whole new level in their first-round series against the Pacers, jacking up 32.9 three-point shots per game, a full 4.0 three-point attempts per game more than any team has taken over the course of a full season in NBA history. It's unlikely they'll take quite that many threes during the regular season, but they're a good bet to be among the league leaders in triples. David Goldman/Associated Press Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver, DeMarre Carroll, Millsap and Mike Scott are all above-average three-point marksmen, and backup center PeroAntić is not afraid to let it fly either. The Hawks also drafted stretch big man Adreian Payne out of Michigan State, adding another to their stable of shooting forwards, and hope Mike Muscala can eventually play the same kind of role. Just attempting threes has historically correlated pretty strongly with a good offensive efficiency because of the spacing it manufactures, and indeed the Hawks were playing top-10 offense until Horford went down. Having him back in the fold gives Teague—as well as secondary ball-handlers like Korver, Dennis Schröder and Shelvin Mack—more options in the pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop, and also allows for a bit more of an inside-out game than the Hawks were able to feature last year due to his prowess on the block. Horford has a nice back-to-the-basket post-up game where he is able to turn and finish over either shoulder, but he's at his best facing his man up for a jumper or a quick two-dribble move to the rim. He's also a sharp passer, able to spot cutters in the paint or shooters on the perimeter whether he's working from the post or on the move in a pick-and-roll. Horford should also help Kyle Korver find more open looks—not that he really needs them. As Grantland's Zach Lowe wrote recently, Korver is an offense unto himself, and Budenholzer knows exactly how to use him: Budenholzer also understands that the very best shooters don’t necessarily maximize their value by standing around. Great shooters have a gravitational pull, and they can shift the range of that force around the floor as they move. A defense can go haywire if that force collides with another object — a teammate screening for Korver, or a defensive player suddenly realizing that Korver has drilled him in the back with a nasty pick. With Korver jetting around screens and drawing multiple defenders into his wake, it only provides more avenues for the Teagues andHorfords and Millsaps to do their damage. A shooter like Korver also allows the Hawks to play more defensive-minded wings like Carroll and new signing Thabo Sefolosha alongside him. Korver's presence on the floor affords those guys more space to get off their shot, something Carroll capitalized on last year with a career-best outside shooting performance and something Sefoloshasorely needs because he has one of the slowest releases on his jumper in the league. The biggest question marks for the Hawks will come on the other end of the floor. When Horford got inured, the Hawks ranked 13th in the league in defensive efficiency at 102.3 points allowed per 100 possessions. They ended the season ranked 14th, but their efficiency slipped to 104.1 points per 100 overall, and it was 105.0 after Horford went down, the full-season equivalent of the 20th-ranked mark. That's not good enough to get it done, so the Hawks went out and signed Sefolosha this summer to help shore up the wings. AJ Mast/Associated Press But Sefolosha's 20 or so minutes a night won't be enough improvement to get the Hawks where they need to be. They need internal improvement, especially from Teague at the point of attack. He can be a bit spacey as a pick-and-roll defender at times, jumping out too soon or too high and leaving the ball-handler with a clear lane to attack, then not recovering fast enough. Having Horford as a partner will help, as will having a year of experience defending with Millsap and Antić. But it's not just the two guys in the action who need to be on the same page—all five guys on the floor have to be on a string, and the Hawks weren't quite there yet, even before Horford's injury. That type of cohesion can be the difference between a defense that's average and one that's good, and if the Hawks want to be a for-real Eastern Conference Finals contender, average on defense likely won't cut it. Their innovative offense and the all-around brilliance of Horford,Millsap and Korver will get the Hawks to the playoffs, and maybe even into the second round. But it's improvement on the other end that can take them another level up. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2159995-why-atlanta-hawks-are-a-real-threat-in-re-made-eastern-conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnice Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Can't they call it a "hot" map instead? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I agree with much of the article except for thinking that we would have beaten the Bulls in the first round last year. We don't matchup well with the Bulls. For some reason, even without Rose, they just seem to have our number. In any event, I like the Hawks chances. Since the odds are 40-1 for us to take the eastern conference, I may put $20 on that. Hey, if the Cavs and Bulls have injuries or struggle and we gel quickly that's a cool $800 for me. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_ Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Best article I've read from bleacher report in a long time. Does a good job of explaining the full value of an Al Horford. He's is so much more valuable than simple stats like ppg & rbg can express. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 That may be the longest, dedicated article. about the Hawks I've ever read. Nice. Damn... Am I'm old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think with Horf out it helped develop out other guys and we will benefit as a result. You'd think that his numbers would have gotten better as the acclimated to the offense. I think we r going to surprise some folks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 That may be the longest, dedicated article. about the Hawks I've ever read. Nice. Damn... Am I'm old. The Kyle Korver article was also the same. (I think it was also by Bleacher Report) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 The Kyle Korver article was also the same. (I think it was also by Bleacher Report) Grantland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Grantland. Thanks - I should know since I posted the article, but I was on my phone and too lazy to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I hate to tell you guys but there are many who believe the hawks won't even make the playoffs next year! I'm hearing all over nba radio....smh I am a hawks fan only but I think it's crazy to put the knicks, raptors, nets, bobcats (hornets) in front of the hawks. I get we didn't have much going on in free agency but healthy I honestly believe the hawks are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 13, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I hate to tell you guys but there are many who believe the hawks won't even make the playoffs next year! I'm hearing all over nba radio....smh I am a hawks fan only but I think it's crazy to put the knicks, raptors, nets, bobcats (hornets) in front of the hawks. I get we didn't have much going on in free agency but healthy I honestly believe the hawks are better. It doesn't hurt my head if someone like the Raps or Hornets better given their success last year (with Horford our record projected out worse than the Raptors and about the same as the Hornets who made some nice summer additions). Not having the Hawks in the playoff is unsurprising but unjustifiable. The Hawks are not only a potential playoff team but a prohibitive favorite for a playoff spot (absent crippling injuries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks - I should know since I posted the article, but I was on my phone and too lazy to look it up. Oh, great job Jaybird. (Gotta love messin' with JBH. Kinda like those messin' with Sasquatch commercials. Wait ...) I hate to tell you guys but there are many who believe the hawks won't even make the playoffs next year! I'm hearing all over nba radio....smh I am a hawks fan only but I think it's crazy to put the knicks, raptors, nets, bobcats (hornets) in front of the hawks. I get we didn't have much going on in free agency but healthy I honestly believe the hawks are better. I get the same impression from listening to nba radio. Just typical Hawk ignorance from abroad. A couple of the hosts understand but I heard Malik Rose put is in the 7-9 boat with the Knicks and I think Detroit. I'm like, really? I'm one of the negative nellies around here and even I recognize we're pretty much a lock for the playoffs. I think Stacey King did have us as a potential top 4 seed. Not sure how he got the words out in between the Bulls cheerleading sessions, but that's a whole other issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'm a little concerned. Teams have some good players, getting better, improving. Two years ago I would have laughed at the thought Toronto or Washington would be better than us, or Charlotte, for that matter. Not so sure anymore, even with a healthy Horf. I do know we're gonna be well coached... And our players are high character. It'll be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well he had me before he said Jeffrey is a three point marksman.. Lmao Jeff played great to close the year but a marksman he is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan89 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 It would be pretty cool if Al could turn into a stretch four becuase we would be unstoppable!! Top three in the east easily with our current roster! Teague look good last year, Trillsap help a lot especially when Al went down and we drafted a good player out of Michigan State. But I never seen or think Al has that type of range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I hate to tell you guys but there are many who believe the hawks won't even make the playoffs next year! I'm hearing all over nba radio....smh I am a hawks fan only but I think it's crazy to put the knicks, raptors, nets, bobcats (hornets) in front of the hawks. I get we didn't have much going on in free agency but healthy I honestly believe the hawks are better. I've never cared what 'the many' thought of the Hawks when it came to W/L and making the playoffs. We traded Joe, oh oh, we won't make the playoffs, Horf tore his left tit - no playoffs, we let Josh walk and brought Millsap, Horf tore his right tit - No playoffs. It's the usual. I'm disappointed we didn't get the big named star but you do the next best thing. Get Al back and take care of our weakness - defensive inefficiencies and size in the back court and wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Oh, great job Jaybird. (Gotta love messin' with JBH. Kinda like those messin' with Sasquatch commercials. Wait ...) Really? @kg01, shot you, tazed you, offered to knife you and you wanna keep messing with me like sasquatch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Everything is running true to form. Every off season, as far back as I can remember, we are told that every other team in the east is MUCH improved over the last season and the Hawks are a lot worse than they were when they finished the last season. How can this be? Maybe I'm nieve. I see the players we've added and I think, "This is good. We've improved." Then, these "experts" tell the world that our beloved Hawks are just not very good at all and will be unable to make the playoffs @ season's end. I may not be able to remember a lot of stuff but I do remember this. Atlanta being constantly put down by the national media every off season. When we fail to sign a major, star type free agent in the off season, apparently they sincerely believe that our future is doomed. Sometimes, my memory slips. Tis said that, for old people (and I qualify) there are a couple of very important things that stops working properly. Memory is the second thing. I forgot what is number one. Maybe we are doomed. I'm a fan of all Atlanta teams. Last season the Falcons fell on their face and didn't do well at all. This season, the Braves have died on the vine and likewise, the Dream suddenly can't do anything right. I'm living in hopes that the Falcons will be better this season and so will the Hawks. GO ATLANTA !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungsta Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) It would be pretty cool if Al could turn into a stretch four becuase we would be unstoppable!! Top three in the east easily with our current roster! Teague look good last year, Trillsap help a lot especially when Al went down and we drafted a good player out of Michigan State. But I never seen or think Al has that type of range. It would help us more if AL focused more on his inside game than to drift even further out away from the basket. We already have 4 bigs who shoot 3's. What difference will it make if we have a 5th big popping 3's? We need more diversity in our offensive attack. Edited August 13, 2014 by yungsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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