Watchman Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said: What would it take to get Butler from Chicago? More than we have available. I'm not terribly impressed with Butler anyway. He is not an impact player IMO. Edited June 22, 2016 by Watchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said: What would it take to get Butler from Chicago? Millsap and 12? Future 1sts as well? Idk if they want an old player if they're rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Guard said: This team can't keep throwing away draft picks. I don't care if this is a weak draft. Building through the draft is paramount in multiple sports. The NBA is no different. Horford + Bazemore/ Whoever isn't saving this squad. They'll be an automatic 1st/2nd round exit lock. Plus, let's not act like the young talent on this team isn't already lackluster as is. The Hawks need lottery talent in the worst way. So far today we have done quite the opposite of throwing away a draft pick. We gained a lottery pick by trading a valuble vet PG that we don't know if we were going to spend on big to keep next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 i predict that we will trade the 21st pick to the Spurs for some magic beans . And, once that bean stalk reaches 6 feet tall, it will probably be our best rebounder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankingitbig Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, gt4403 said: Can some of our Cap experts clear something up? According to Hoopshype, we had 52 million committed before the trade. Now we have approximately 44 million. With Horford's Caphold at 18 million that would take us up to 62 million. I believe the new cap is 94 million. Does that mean we now have 32 million to work with even including Horford? Yea - that's the way I understand it. Would probably need to slot in cap hits for the #12 and #21 pick ($1,931,900 and $1,249,800, respectively), but that's what I am getting to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Just now, thescout5 said: Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. We can mimmic their technique by signing Al last but unfortunately Al is not LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, thescout5 said: Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. Well, in all fairness, lots of players are willing to take less to play with LaBronna. Not so much for Horford and Millsap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. They get impact minutes from cheap young players. Well the Warriors do. We don't. The cavs on the other hand....I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hawks are going nowhere bringing back Horford and Baze if that is what happens.We all know Hawks need alot more talent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Watchman said: If the other free agent is Bazemore, then we are worse than we were when the day started. Same team, with one less good point guard, and 2 first round picks that will probably become some thoroughly mediocre guy and 2 second rounders. Sorry, but we don't do drafting. That is true but the fact remains we needed to move salary to clear space for Durant, Dwight, Batum, Barnes, Whiteside, Fournie, Baze, Bitombo, etc....and whoever the other free agents are that will be getting overpaid that allya want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Except the Hawks have plenty of cap space in this free agency, it's just not that likely any big free agent is going to agree to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said: "That's right, Bawb." Can somebody go check on Bob? Between the Dream's 2OT loss, thousands of screaming children and the NBA trade winds blowing, he might be a tad disoriented. Besides, wasn't this kinda the way Daniel Bryan got started? ~lw3 Hey @lethalweapon3, my kid was one of the the screamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Hawks are going nowhere bringing back Horford and Baze if that is what happens.We all know Hawks need alot more talent. Hawks management must feel otherwise. The hawks will be lucky to win 40 games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Would anyone be saying the same thing next year at the trade deadline when we couldn't get more than three second rounders and cash considerations for Jeff. We would lose him otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted June 22, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yes! Let the rebuild start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm a fan of Jaylen but if we don't get him I wouldn't be disappointed. Honestly if we do keep the picks I just hope that we actually use them on players that will be able to play for us. I feel like someone will fall just like every year and we should take the risk this time around. Just can't invision dealing Jeff just to bring back Horf and Baze alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Some of you would only be happy if we traded a future 2nd round pick for LBJ. #unrealistic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Flight said: I'm a fan of Jaylen but if we don't get him I wouldn't be disappointed. Honestly if we do keep the picks I just hope that we actually use them on players that will be able to play for us. I feel like someone will fall just like every year and we should take the risk this time around. Just can't invision dealing Jeff just to bring back Horf and Baze alone. I sincerely hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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