Predicting Which Top-20 NBA Rookies Will Be 2016-17 Studs or Duds

[aali34]

Taurean Prince

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2665000-predicting-which-2016-17-nba-rookies-will-be-studs-or-duds/page/13

[AHF]

Stud

Barring a training camp catastrophe, Taurean Prince won't be starting on the wing for the Atlanta Hawks anytime soon. The team handed a four-year, $70 million deal to Kent Bazemore and still has Kyle Korver entrenched at shooting guard.

Instead, Prince will probably spend his rookie season competing with Thabo Sefolosha, Tim Hardaway Jr. and fellow 2016 draftee DeAndre' Bembry. The Baylor grad could be the best out of that bunch; he hit 37.6 percent of his threes in college while flashing a nifty drive-and-kick game and splendid defensive skills.

Prince could make some noise at the next level on athleticism alone.

Mike Budenholzer and Co. have done more with less than what Prince brings to the table. They already turned DeMarre Carroll and Bazemore into handsomely rewarded wings and did well enough grooming Dennis Schröder to feel comfortable trading Jeff Teague to Indiana in the deal that brought Prince to Atlanta.

He won't be a star in year one and might never reach those heights, especially coming into the league as a 22-year-old. But if Prince can shoot, defend and play smart basketball on both ends, he could wind up as one of the bigger benefactors from the organization's reshuffling around Schröder, Paul Millsap and Dwight Howard.

[Gray Mule]

Brembry not mentioned.  Guess "they" don't believe he's worth mentioning....

[ThomasCredle]

Buds system is complex and the players always mentioned as breaking out in it, Demarre and Bazemore, both really emerged in their second year playing in it.

I think we will see some flashes this year and have some "fall in love" moments from his athleticism.  We will also have some groan inducing dismay when he makes a bad defensive read or gets lost on offense.

Next year I definitely can see lots of stories about him being a breakout second year player.  

Like Grey Mule said I think being pushed by Bembry in practice for game minutes will help both of them as well.

[capstone21]

20 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

Brembry not mentioned.  Guess "they" don't believe he's worth mentioning....

They did the first 20 draft picks ... Bembry was picked 21st

[Thomas]

8 hours ago, ThomasCredle said:

Buds system is complex and the players always mentioned as breaking out in it, Demarre and Bazemore, both really emerged in their second year playing in it.

I think we will see some flashes this year and have some "fall in love" moments from his athleticism.  We will also have some groan inducing dismay when he makes a bad defensive read or gets lost on offense.

Next year I definitely can see lots of stories about him being a breakout second year player.  

Like Grey Mule said I think being pushed by Bembry in practice for game minutes will help both of them as well.

A very sane analysis. I'm pretty sure I'm not being rational for hoping he plays as well as I want in year one. Just feel like by the late season he will be getting some meaningful minutes. Don't know what that could mean for the playoffs especially with us having a stopper in Thabo coming off the bench but the more minutes he earns during the season, the better prepared he will be for the playoffs.  

[AtlHomer]

On ‎9‎/‎22‎/‎2016 at 5:11 PM, AHF said:

Stud

Barring a training camp catastrophe, Taurean Prince won't be starting on the wing for the Atlanta Hawks anytime soon. The team handed a four-year, $70 million deal to Kent Bazemore and still has Kyle Korver entrenched at shooting guard.

Hopefully as the season progresses, he will get opportunities to start.  Both Korver and Sefolosha have ending contracts and the Hawks should also begin thinking about out years.

 

[BigDog90]

On 9/23/2016 at 11:02 PM, ThomasCredle said:

Buds system is complex and the players always mentioned as breaking out in it, Demarre and Bazemore, both really emerged in their second year playing in it.

I think we will see some flashes this year and have some "fall in love" moments from his athleticism.  We will also have some groan inducing dismay when he makes a bad defensive read or gets lost on offense.

Next year I definitely can see lots of stories about him being a breakout second year player.  

Like Grey Mule said I think being pushed by Bembry in practice for game minutes will help both of them as well.

With the Hawks having several roster spots open next summer, I assume Prince will take Thabo's spot going forward as the backup SF for the 2017-18 season.

I'd love it if Baze improves his 3 point shot to where Bud would be comfortable starting Baze at SG and Prince at SF next season.

Edited September 28, 2016 by BigDog90

[capstone21]

With the depth charts the way they are ... Unless an injury occurs I have a feeling our two rookies will spend much of the season in the dleague ... Which is not a bad thing ... A chance to learn, develop and get pt down there

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

With the depth charts the way they are ... Unless an injury occurs I have a feeling our two rookies will spend much of the season in the dleague ... Which is not a bad thing ... A chance to learn, develop and get pt down there

I think they push their way to a lot of PT...just a guess but you can't keep these rooks down. They are too mentally tough.

[Thomas]

12 hours ago, BigDog90 said:

With the Hawks having several roster spots open next summer, I assume Prince will take Thabo's spot going forward as the backup SF for the 2017-18 season.

I'd love it if Baze improves his 3 point shot to where Bud would be comfortable starting Baze at SG and Prince at SF next season.

By that season we probably will have our starting swings as Baze at SG and Prince at SF. We don't automatically have Kyle and Thabo here at all because their contracts run out. Even with them being Bud type players Kyle and Thabo will be another year older and shouldn't be used for more than spot minutes if retained. Kyle for shooting and Thabo to help shut someone down. Father Time is becoming their enemy more and more moving forward.  

[macdaddy]

14 minutes ago, Thomas said:

By that season we probably will have our starting swings as Baze at SG and Prince at SF. We don't automatically have Kyle and Thabo here at all because their contracts run out. Even with them being Bud type players Kyle and Thabo will be another year older and shouldn't be used for more than spot minutes if retained. Kyle for shooting and Thabo to help shut someone down. Father Time is becoming their enemy more and more moving forward.  

This is Thabo's last year under contract i think.   Kyle has one more year after this one right?   

[Thomas]

13 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

This is Thabo's last year under contract i think.   Kyle has one more year after this one right?   

Don't believe so.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/kyle-korver-2752/

CONTRACT:4 yr(s) / $24,000,000

SIGNING BONUS-

AVERAGE SALARY$6,000,000

SIGNED USING:Bird

FREE AGENT:2017 / UFA

YEAR   AGE STATUS BASE SALARY CAP HIT DEAD CAP 2013-14 32   $6,760,563 $6,760,563 $24,000,000 2014-15 33   $6,253,521 $6,253,521 $17,239,437 2015-16 34   $5,746,479 $5,746,479 $10,985,916 2016-17 35   $5,239,437 $5,239,437 $5,239,437 2017 36   UFA

[macdaddy]

5 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Don't believe so.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/kyle-korver-2752/

CONTRACT:4 yr(s) / $24,000,000

SIGNING BONUS-

AVERAGE SALARY$6,000,000

SIGNED USING:Bird

FREE AGENT:2017 / UFA

YEAR   AGE STATUS BASE SALARY CAP HIT DEAD CAP 2013-14 32   $6,760,563 $6,760,563 $24,000,000 2014-15 33   $6,253,521 $6,253,521 $17,239,437 2015-16 34   $5,746,479 $5,746,479 $10,985,916 2016-17 35   $5,239,437 $5,239,437 $5,239,437 2017 36   UFA

Damn.  Thanks.   I can't believe it's been 4 years already.   If Kyle has a good season i expect he'll sign back with us and retire a hawk (assuming he keeps playing).   I'll take him back.   I think he has the ability and to stay effective for a few more years off the bench.  

[Thomas]

Very much agree. I also like Hazer's idea of him as a shooting coach full-time when he retires and maybe more responsibility than that for us down the road. Pretty sure he's doing lots of shooting coaching for us already.  

[BigDog90]

12 hours ago, macdaddy said:

Damn.  Thanks.   I can't believe it's been 4 years already.   If Kyle has a good season i expect he'll sign back with us and retire a hawk (assuming he keeps playing).   I'll take him back.   I think he has the ability and to stay effective for a few more years off the bench.  

I'm curious to see if he would want to comeback, play with Al again or chase a ring (SA, GS, CLE).

[hazer]

I think 3zus re-signs with the Hawks on an affordable deal to come of the bench with instant offense, player/shooting coach grooming himself for the official job, and retiring a Hawk where he gets that official position. Lining himself up to take over after Bud retires in a Pop/Bud sort of tandem. But hopefully a succession, not a Bud transfer to anther team. The scenario is just set up too perfectly for Kyle to walk away from.