Clarification on these trading rumors

[Guest]

2 hours ago, andpau said:

Just logged in because of that..

"The latest NBA trade rumors are pointing toward a possible blockbuster deal between the Cleveland Cavaliers, New York Knicks, and Atlanta Hawks. The hypothetical trade scenario that is being shared and discussed online is structured as follows: the Cavs would receive Carmelo Anthony and shooting guard Kyle Korver. The Knicks would acquire Paul Millsap, Iman Shumpert, point guard Dennis Schröder, and center Tiago Splitter. Finally, the Hawks would come out of this swap with Kevin Love and point guard Derrick Rose."

http://www.inquisitr.com/3854029/nba-trade-rumors-anthony-korver-cavs-millsap-shumpert-Schröder-splitter-knicks-love-rose-hawks/

Horseshit.

Trading Sap, Korver and Dennis for Kevin Love as Rose is a free agent.  We are supposedly trading Millsap and Korver because we don't want to pay them, why pay a broken Rose.

[RWF]

Love and Dwight is nasty though......

 

But Dennis......

 

So much mixed emotions.

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

15 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Per espn trade machine, this works but only if Cleveland cuts 20 million in extra salary.  this is nonsense

You do have to take into account Mo williams and his contract

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

Dennis is going nowhere... Please see the YOUNG AND GOOD CONTRACTS part of this thread

[Watchman]

1 hour ago, LamarHampton said:

This is straight garbage. I would almost certainly bail on watching this team for at least the rest of the season.

This sounds much more reasonable to me. But who would run point in NYK? Seems like something is still missing here, but much more tolerable for me than that other ish

The alleged deal indicated Schröder would be going to the Knicks, so there's the answer to your point guard question.

[RWF]

If there was a way to get Love and keep Dennis, I'd feel good going against a Melo/Lebron/whoever frontcourt against Dwight and Love destroying them on the boards.

[Watchman]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

I figured Tim would be on the block. There is no way Atlanta has interest in paying him 12+ this off-season. He's was the most obvious one. 

Makes more sense to pay THJ 12 than to pay Baze 14.

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

Side note the Knicks have backed out of the trade due to them not being able to find a valid replacement for Rose assuming he was to be dealt to Cleveland. Amongst the rumor mill between the 3 squads here is what I've gathered

 

CLE-Rondo,Rose,and Collison all on there watch list

NYK-Trying to actively deal Rose and Noah however they haven't found the "right" deal much like us with Sap

ATL-THJ,Thabo,Splitter,and Sap are all being shopped. Anticipate this roster to look very different by weeks end. 

[AHF]

2 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheSquawk said:

NYK-Trying to actively deal Rose and Noah however they haven't found the "right" deal much like us with Sap

ATL-THJ,Thabo,Splitter,and Sap are all being shopped. Anticipate this roster to look very different by weeks end. 

Rose - Marginal value

Noah - Negative value

Splitter - Negative value

Thabo - Solid value

Sap - Attractive

THJr - Solid value

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ViewsFromTheSquawk said:

Side note the Knicks have backed out of the trade due to them not being able to find a valid replacement for Rose assuming he was to be dealt to Cleveland. Amongst the rumor mill between the 3 squads here is what I've gathered

 

CLE-Rondo,Rose,and Collison all on there watch list

NYK-Trying to actively deal Rose and Noah however they haven't found the "right" deal much like us with Sap

ATL-THJ,Thabo,Splitter,and Sap are all being shopped. Anticipate this roster to look very different by weeks end. 

Collison seems unlikely since NOP is trying desperately to make the playoffs.

NYK can't find  the 'right' deal for Noah because no one wants that contract.

 

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

ANOTHER SIDE NOTE Korver deal to be done and completed by midday Tomorrow. So anticipate us to either eat the Dunleavy money and keep him or find a 3rd team to deal with. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ViewsFromTheSquawk said:

ANOTHER SIDE NOTE Korver deal to be done and completed by midday Tomorrow. So anticipate us to either eat the Dunleavy money and keep him or find a 3rd team to deal with. 

 

[Watchman]

2 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheSquawk said:

ANOTHER SIDE NOTE Korver deal to be done and completed by midday Tomorrow. So anticipate us to either eat the Dunleavy money and keep him or find a 3rd team to deal with. 

Why would someone trade for him if we are going to buy him out?  They can just sign him off waivers, assuming anyone would want him.

[Plainview1981]

9 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheSquawk said:

Side note the Knicks have backed out of the trade due to them not being able to find a valid replacement for Rose assuming he was to be dealt to Cleveland. Amongst the rumor mill between the 3 squads here is what I've gathered

 

CLE-Rondo,Rose,and Collison all on there watch list

NYK-Trying to actively deal Rose and Noah however they haven't found the "right" deal much like us with Sap

ATL-THJ,Thabo,Splitter,and Sap are all being shopped. Anticipate this roster to look very different by weeks end. 

Why isn't Bazemore being shopped?

 

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

Just now, Watchman said:

Why would someone trade for him if we are going to buy him out?  They can just sign him off waivers, assuming anyone would want him.

Who knows... this deal should've been done last night I mean I'm not no capologist by any means but Dunleavy+picks for Korver seems like a pretty straight forward deal. 

[Watchman]

1 minute ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

Why isn't Bazemore being shopped?

 

U so silly.

[ViewsFromTheSquawk]

Just now, Hotlanta1981 said:

Why isn't Bazemore being shopped?

 

Contract is what I'm assuming. It's been very quite surrounding his availability while every other wing that gets major minutes is being dealt like free candy

[Lurker]

I said it on twitter, now I'll say it here.

Y'all, resigning Bazemore was a huge mistake. It's one that is so bad it traps this team. If they resign Millsap, there's not going to be much room to do more than little things. If the team ends up having to rebuild, this contract is a lot of the reason why.

Letting Bazemore go and trying to work a contract with Hardaway Jr would've been risky, but a better idea.

[Lurker]

48 minutes ago, AHF said:

Resigning Bazemore was a mistake.  The decision with THJr is going to be a hard one - compounded by the fact that you already "kept your young talent" last year with Bazemore and drafted more young talent at THJr's position.  Unlike baseball, you have a limited cap in basketball.  If you resign Bazmore for 12% of your cap and THJr for 12% of your cap you basically have kept two backup SGs for 1/4 of your payroll and doomed yourself.  

I get your point but it isn't that simple.

 

FWIW, Braves look like they are rounding into pretty good shape right now as well.

Rebuilds are painful, but they can work if done correctly. The Braves look like they'll be in good shape about 3-4 years after they decided to pull the plug on the core they had.

I don't think this year will be good for the Braves (but it should be improved), but after that they're going to be back on track.

[LamarHampton]

27 minutes ago, Watchman said:

The alleged deal indicated Schröder would be going to the Knicks, so there's the answer to your point guard question.

Not the second alleged deal that I quoted and was referring to. Reading is fundamental.