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I'm just looking for him to be that guy when we have some tall stiff pulling in all the rebounds a la zaza or jason collins role in the past. I'm not expecting much out of him but hopefully he can give what Dalembert gave the Mavs. Some D rebounds and that's about it.

Give him the ball.

When Antić came in in the 4th quarter he did a good job defending Dirk, Granted it was for about 2 minutes but i think the guy has potential. He needs to get used to the speed and intensity of the nba game. I think once he settles in he'll be alright.

Alright! While we definitely need some size Ayón will help off the bench. There again we lost this game by not defending the perimeter in any effective fashion. I'd be interested in rebounds by quarter because my guess is it was fairly even after the first quarter. But total lack of offensive rebounds on our part is disturbing. I hope Bud is a creative guy because just forcing in the spurs offense isn't going to work with this bunch.

Ellis had 7 turnovers though so wouldn't really help our protecting the ball. But he was lights out. We'll see.

I'll admit I watch very little of this series but was this a terrible series? It seemed so to me. Of course I had no interest in it because i don't like either team but it seemed like some mostly boring not close games.

Where is everyone today? There are so few posts this morning you would think the Hawks had won. C'mon, sky is falling, tank is on, true center, miss smoove, all our guys suck, bud doesn't know what he's doing. I'm really disappointed in this board.

Not from last night but worth seeing. I know he got a big deal but really wish he was still a Hawk

Everyone acts like BK was a total incompetent but you can grab most GMs drafting history and call them idiots in hindsight. Not saying that BKs record isn't poor. Plus BK wasn't sitting in his bean bag chair making these decisions at home. He had a full nba scouting department at work.

Well said GM. I could have used some Jared Cunningham attacking Monta. I didn't feel we went after Monta and Dirk enough on the offensive end. We made it too easy for them to hide. Look at the +/- for the Hawks it is really weird. Lineups seemed strange to me but again its game one. I'm not sure how milsap and teague can both play 35 minutes and have a difference of 17 +/-. Well i know how but its seems unlikely. Hopefully the system gets better. We should have posted up Brand more, I didn't see anyone who could guard milsap but didn't really see a lot of plays getting him the ball. But we'll see. Horford, Korver will have better games. Missed Zaza for sure. Need some O Rebounds.

Would have liked to see it. I gotta say that if Josh is a beast this year I will be pissed but at the same time happy for him. Josh/Monore is pretty formidable.

I was going to bow out to except for that last line. lol. So if we stay in the playoffs and in a few years we haven't won a championship then i guess many will feel 'right'? But since we previously tanked and had about 6 or 7 lottery picks and still failed to build a contender that isn't a failure of the process but simple a failure of BK? You're right though. We aren't going to settle this so let's play ball!!!!!!!

Maybe i'm not following you but in the case of the Hawks we have secured assets through the draft lottery. Lots of them in fact. So like everyone else we are searching to put together those missing pieces. I don't think anyone is suggesting we forgo drafting at all. I know we've beat this thing to death but my point is that going into the draft lottery it is much more likely that we don't end up with a franchise player (meaning a real star) than it is that we do. I don't see how that can be debated. Certainly we need to get talent through the draft as well as through FA and trades. Absolutely. The real issue is there aren't 30+ franchise talent level players. Most teams will be SOL.

Actually i much prefer Lou to Crawford. Crawford makes Lou look like Tony Allen on defense. I think Lou's impact is really underrated. I agree with the article that we need more size and defense at the 2 but as a scorer off the bench Lou is really good.

There are a lot more failure stories than success stories when it comes to tanking and drafting. No one seems to want to admit that. Now the Bulls obviously are a very successful franchise but of the other three with the most top 3 picks (not even talking the whole lottery) its pretty much misery. I mean if we're going to keep throwing out Duncan and KD might as well look at the other possibilities. http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/05/29/eleven-factual-tidbits-regarding-the-nba-lottery/ 2003 I think there were 4 all nba players and they were all selected in the top 5. So what are the chances there are 4 all nba players in this draft, then what are the chances that we land in the top 5, and then the chances that we make the right pick. Is it more likely that all those cards fall right and we end up with Kevin Durant than us ending up with player on the level of Horford, Teague, Josh, or Marvin?

Except that isn't something different. Its exactly what we did when BK took over. Tanked, hit the lottery for years. Was out of the playoffs for what 6 years and then became that treadmill team. So that didn't work so well just as it doesn't work most of the time. Of course when it works its spectacular but its still a long shot.

I'm praying we can foster a culture of losing and huge draft failures.

Here are the starters: TEAGUE - HORFORD MILSAP KORVER: CARROLL JUST KIDDING - JUNKYARD DOG:

I think the Bucks want in the lottery. I'm also thinking Toronto may opt for that too eventually. Detroit Cleveland Washington Atlanta will fight for 3 playoff spots i think.

Agreed. It clearly states if Dennis and Jenkins show they are capable off the bench then trading Lou makes a lot of sense. Getting a starting quality 2 who can defend would be huge for this team.

That link isn't working. Is it a live draft? Does anyone do auto drafts anymore? That would help me a lot.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/blakelys-eastern-conference-preview?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo From the 'Celtics insider' but is he really equating the loss of Josh/Zaza/Harris to Pierce/Garnett/Terry? Yawn.

I've got to think they have given him the choice. I agree we have nothing to gain by him staying for this train wreck season. Don't see why they wouldn't give him the choice though.

That's true but Horford, Smith, Teague and Korver took us to the 6th seed last year. that was light years ahead of what philly, phx, no, toronto did. So in that respect we had a much better team to build on. Who knows though maybe it is wait and tank. if we're 4 games from dropping out of the playoff race at the trade deadline Horford may be gone. I like the direction we've gone. Its a mistake to say we haven't improved when we haven't even played a game and its a mistake to say that anyone in the east other the Heat is a legit contender. Pacers, Bulls, Nets and Knicks all have some potential issues despite looking good right now. We have some trades we can look at so i'm not writing us off yet. I'm fine with tanking if we truly aren't any good. But we have some talent here.

Well Lebron is certainly not a hero in Cleveland.