Popeye Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Agree, if everything he said is true and that he is not all for money than i would be happy to see him as our owner. Kb why are you changing his words? I know you want to keep BK here and so do I, but don't try to change his words that he is selfish and all about hmself when you don't even know him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdawg Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I don't see anything bad in what Belkin said in the article. The Suns had already signed Raja Bell to a big deal. Why would they have matched JJ's contract? And, have the current owners really been that big of a success? I keep hearing about the progress BK has made. I guess going from 13 to 26 wins is good, but does anyone really think the Hawks will be in the playoffs next season? And if they're not, they lose the lottery pick because of the JJ deal. I say give Belkin a chance. He can't be much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 boy i thought i had a problem with Diesel. KB makes Diesel look like a choir boy. atleast he tries to make some sense while purposefully instigating arguments. KB is officially on "ignore" just as soon as somebody tells me how to do it. i'd appreciate a volunteer. thanks in advance. P.S. a doctor........ i call bullish on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Quote: I feel sorry for your patients That's BS. You have no idea how dedicated a person has to be to get into med school and then go through 7+ years of training after a 4 year college degree. Then you make only *ok* money working long hours to treat people who feel entitled and will sue you if they aren't happy. All that because you care about people. That's an ignorant remark. This is a silly basketball forum. You railed at KB for insulting people in the first place, then you attack him for the thing he's dedicating his life to. Hypocritical, thoughtless, and ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballboards Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 We'll see the real Steve Belkin sooner rather than later. I have a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1524 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Hey, at least Belkin will keep JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 11, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Earlier this year, Coangelo and Sarver came out and said that they would have matched... I put myself in their shoes... Somebody wants to steal my FA without acknowledging me? Come on, they would have matched and would have traded JJ to another team later. It is foolish thinking to believe that Phoenix would have just let us waltz off with JJ. They were not financially strained... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 11, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Quote: I treat people the way they deserve to be treated. That's scary to hear a future doctor say in the context of treating his patients... Isn't the first rule "Do no harm"? That's do no harm... That's not consider the patient and do harm according to weather he deserves it or not. Are there any medical ethics classes being held over there at PSCOM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 KB is the one that brought his profession into the forum..Not me..He used it to demonstrate how noone should question the authority of what he or BK says in their given professions because they are experts and the rest of us are not..KB is the one that is CONSTANTLY calling people names like stupid, idiots, or insulting their intelligence if they don't agree with him... "Then you make only *ok* money working long hours to treat people who feel entitled " How are you any better?..With the above remark you show your true colors..How about treating people that are sick and need help?..Why would you refer to them as people who feel entitled?..As my father was laying dying in a hospital last year, I don't recall him feeling entitled...I also don't recall any of his doctors being arrogant asses..They were dedicated and professional and actually answered questions without making anyone feel stupid for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Do not a damn one of you have any reading comprehension skills? I didn't change his words. His words were all I, I, I, me, me, me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 How's school going? I'm assuming that you are finishing up with your second year and will start clinical rotations in August. I've got my board exam on the 27th of this month and start my family medicine rotation in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Yeah, but I didn't pay any attention to them. They were a waste of my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Quote: That's an ignorant remark. This is a silly basketball forum. You railed at KB for insulting people in the first place, then you attack him for the thing he's dedicating his life to. Hypocritical, thoughtless, and ignorant. Not ignorant at all. My father and brother are both doctors, and I work in health insurance billing. I know a great deal about the life of a doctor. Many doctors have a tendency to get a "god" complex. They treat assistants, nurses, and patients like they are ignorant idiots, and hate to be questioned on anything. All of the behavior that KB illustrates on this board indicate that he could be this type of doctor. I admire the study and work that a med student and resident puts in, but it can give them a sense of entitlement and authority that isn't truly their's. From my impression of KB on this board, I wouldn't want to be his patient either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I agree with you on Diaw. He had given up in Atlanta. But I always wondered why we didn't try to just sign JJ to a contract first - without the draft picks and Diaw. Then if it didn't work, do the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Because the league rules state that once you sign a player to an offer sheet, that player cannot be traded to the team signing him if the offer is matched by his original team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 My whole thing is that Belkin is not rich enough to own an entire team by himself. He won't even be able to buy the others out at cost without help..so in essence we will be trading Atlanta Spirit, LLC with the Belkin group, whomever that may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 What he will have if he buys the others out at cost is tremendous equity..He will have less than a hundred million invested and own 2 franchises that may be worth 3 or 4 hundred million combined..He will be able to borrow against the worth to finance the teams easily..Money should not be his issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 The NBA won't let Belkin hedge his equity like that. Stern doesn't want to run the risk that Bank of America may foreclose on an NBA franchise. Otherwise they could have approved the deal with McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 The NBA has no say so in it..He could easily use his banking experience and equity to help finance the team while he is looking for other investors..The fact that the teams are worth 3 or 4 times what he will have paid for them makes it pretty easy to find investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 11, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I agree that the NBA won't let someone operate with finances like that. There are rules for owners for the amount of liquid assets you need to have to support the team, etc. The NBA won't let an existing owner run the team based primarily on loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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