jerrywest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 First thing first - Al needs to dominate Noah on national TV tonight. If the Celtics stay hot, Garnett and Pierce will take away two of the front court spots. Bosh/LeBron/Howard are shoe-ins. Smoove will make it before Al. Injury to Granger opens up the 7th spot. If the Hawks stay with the elite and the Bucks/Nets/Bulls stay terrible, Al will be picked up before Bogut/Lopez/Noah. Al's asking prize as a free agent will go up if he becomes an all star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted December 9, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 First thing first - Al needs to dominate Noah on national TV tonight. If the Celtics stay hot, Garnett and Pierce will take away two of the front court spots. Bosh/LeBron/Howard are shoe-ins. Smoove will make it before Al. Injury to Granger opens up the 7th spot. If the Hawks stay with the elite and the Bucks/Nets/Bulls stay terrible, Al will be picked up before Bogut/Lopez/Noah. Al's asking prize as a free agent will go up if he becomes an all star. I think the only way we get 3 all stars is if we have the best record in the East. There are a lot of deserving players so it will be hard to justify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linus22277 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Al's asking prize as a free agent will go up if he becomes an all star. I thought we signed him to a 4yr deal after drafting him in 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I thought we signed him to a 4yr deal after drafting him in 07. Yes. I didn't mean he'll be a free agent this summer. In 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I think the only way we get 3 all stars is if we have the best record in the East. There are a lot of deserving players so it will be hard to justify. Boston will already have Garnett and Pierce. Allen + Rondo aren't Al's competition. I don't think East will send 6 guards. Orlando will get Howard and Carter. If R.Lewis plays great rest of the way, he might get the 7th front court spot. Cavs will get LeBron and ???. No front court all star candidate. Shaq who? Hawks - JJ + Smoove. Bosh is in. Granger is injured. There is not much competition for Al except Rashad. He will probably get in before Bogut/Lopez/Lee/Noah/Jamison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Gerald Wallace could and should be in consideration for one of the forward spots also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Gerald Wallace could and should be in consideration for one of the forward spots also. I forgot about that team. He'll be in before Al, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted December 9, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Boston will already have Garnett and Pierce. Allen + Rondo aren't Al's competition. I don't think East will send 6 guards. Orlando will get Howard and Carter. If R.Lewis plays great rest of the way, he might get the 7th front court spot. Cavs will get LeBron and ???. No front court all star candidate. Shaq who? Hawks - JJ + Smoove. Bosh is in. Granger is injured. There is not much competition for Al except Rashad. He will probably get in before Bogut/Lopez/Lee/Noah/Jamison. Allen is not going to make it. The all star game will not have all players from the same teams. THere is always an attempt for some represetation. Lopez has been just a force and the only thing that will hold him back is the teams record (however with players back from injury the Nets have been playing better). Noah has been the Bulls spark and would get in ahead of Horford if the Hawks do not have the top record (so the Bulls can have a spot). I don't know if Bogut gets in but he has been playing really well too, I think it will depend on if Jennings gets a bid. Granger will be back in January so he will get his bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted December 10, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Gerald Wallace if he keeps this is up will force himself into the AS game. It is unreal someone his size is leading the league in rebounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jy23 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Gerald Wallace if he keeps this is up will force himself into the AS game. It is unreal someone his size is leading the league in rebounding. And I'm loving it because he's on my fantasy team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankWhite Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Al's not going to make it unless he suddenly starts getting 18-20 points and 10-12 boards every night. We have too many options for that to happen. JJ will get in on equal parts production and rep, and Josh will for his overall game and being the x-factor, especially on D, for our start this year. I really think Josh has a great shot at DPOY, barring any letdown or injury. The question is, if LeBron competes in the slam dunk contest, will Josh throw his hat in the ring? A BronBron vs. Smoove final would be absolutely sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin31 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Lopez's numbers are too far past Horford's. He's getting something like 18/8/2, and I don't think he'll be passed up for 13/9/1.5 or whatever it is Horf is getting. Wallace should definitely get in, and there's no way, EVER, that Joakim Noah sniffs an All-Star game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 10, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Bogut will probably go over Lopez if the Bucks stay this much better than the Nets and if the Mil PG doesn't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member niremetal Posted December 10, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) Bogut will probably go over Lopez if the Bucks stay this much better than the Nets and if the Mil PG doesn't go. If the Nets' winning percentage stays below .150, Lopez won't make the All-Star team. Not if Al is playing for a team with a .700+ winning percentage and is averaging a double-double. And not when Al is a better defender, better rebounder, better passer, and more efficient scorer. Really, the only justification for putting Lopez on the team is that he has a better scoring average, but that doesn't mean much when your team's only other scoring option for most of the year has been Chris Douglas-Roberts. He also has more blocks, but I have a feeling that wouldn't be true if Lopez were playing alongside Josh Smith (a fact that the coaches are going to recognize). As for Bogut, his stats are not really any better than Al's at this point, and he plays on a lesser team. And, like Lopez, he is a mediocre on-ball defender. I think Al is a frontrunner assuming that the coaches decide to overlook the ever-high marketing appeal of Shaq. Edited December 10, 2009 by niremetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted December 10, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If the Nets' winning percentage stays below .150, Lopez won't make the All-Star team. Not if Al is playing for a team with a .700+ winning percentage and is averaging a double-double. And not when Al is a better defender, better rebounder, better passer, and more efficient scorer. Really, the only justification for putting Lopez on the team is that he has a better scoring average, but that doesn't mean much when your team's only other scoring option for most of the year has been Chris Douglas-Roberts. He also has more blocks, but I have a feeling that wouldn't be true if Lopez were playing alongside Josh Smith (a fact that the coaches are going to recognize). As for Bogut, his stats are not really any better than Al's at this point, and he plays on a lesser team. And, like Lopez, he is a mediocre on-ball defender. I think Al is a frontrunner assuming that the coaches decide to overlook the ever-high marketing appeal of Shaq. I would take Lopez hands down over Horford both on an All-star team and on the real Hawks. Lopez's numbers: 19.3 PPG 9.1 RPG 2.18 BLK 1.7 AST on .495 FG% and .833 FT%. He's also only 21 years old. Horford: 13.3 PPG 9.5 RPG 1.4 BLK 2.1 AST on .572 FG% and .750 FT%. He is two years older and he's in his third year in the NBA. Lopez is also a legit seven foot center with a big body while Horford is two to three inches to shorter. I like Al but he'll always be playing out of position at center while Lopez is a natural center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotatl Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Right... this all comes down to who gets selected as the backup center in the East behind Howard. Really the choices are Shaq, Lopez, Horford, and Bogut. (Noah was on the list but the Bulls are just too putrid) Shaq doesn't deserve it on any level whatsoever but it wouldn't shock me for him to get it. Since I don't think that Jennings will get selected I think that Bogut will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKSFAN89 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Bogut irritates me because he looks like a white Jason Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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