MVP23 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 ....Even if we find a way to beat the Heat in the playoffs, we're going to lose in the 2nd round. I would rather win 25 games and have a shot at Wall...(No, I'm not being serious) JJ doesn't sell tickets, hes not a 'give the ball to him, let him score type of player' he is a terrible leader, his shootingr is hot and cold (John Salmons)...he is a poor mans..everybody else. I'm sick and tired of looking at his stone face game after game. He brings nothing to this team, that we wouldn't have with Craw as the number 1 guy...just let him walk, I don't even care if we get Wade..hes not underrated..hes just not that good.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nice pipe dream but read the thread on salary cap. We can over go over the cap to resign our own FAs (JJ) and NOT other teams' FAs (Wade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Nice pipe dream but read the thread on salary cap. We can over go over the cap to resign our own FAs (JJ) and NOT other teams' FAs (Wade). But we could trade for equal value. So the best answer is to trade JJ for equal value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted January 7, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 No, you couldn't trade JJ for equal value right now because he's UFA next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 WOW No comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Actually I do have a comment on "tank the rest of the season" MVP23 must be a Lebron James fan. What a ridiculous thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted January 7, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 There is a time and a place for tanking a season - this team is so far removed from both it isn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 7, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The notion of tanking is ridiculous. But....if I am a team at the bottom of the league, I LOVE what I see from Wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The notion of tanking is ridiculous. But....if I am a team at the bottom of the league, I LOVE what I see from Wall! UK is loaded..............with all that freshman talent there is no telling how much better they will be in March then they are right now. Patterson seems to really be developing some SF game that could translate to the NBA too. He played like a pure PF up until this year. Wall is Chirs Paul with springs in his shoes. I'm ready for another 40 point blow out Sat. I was at the UGA / UK game in Athens last year..................UK was up by 30 at and half time and their twice as good this year. Oh well............at least the Dawgs beat Tech again in Athens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 ....Even if we find a way to beat the Heat in the playoffs, we're going to lose in the 2nd round. I would rather win 25 games and have a shot at Wall...(No, I'm not being serious) JJ doesn't sell tickets, hes not a 'give the ball to him, let him score type of player' he is a terrible leader, his shootingr is hot and cold (John Salmons)...he is a poor mans..everybody else. I'm sick and tired of looking at his stone face game after game. He brings nothing to this team, that we wouldn't have with Craw as the number 1 guy...just let him walk, I don't even care if we get Wade..hes not underrated..hes just not that good.. The team is not currently in a position to tank. Trading Marvin and maybe someone else to get rebounding and toughness is a much better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) The team is not currently in a position to tank. Trading Marvin and maybe someone else to get rebounding and toughness is a much better idea. I am with you but Marvin and Bibby are near impossible to move. Only decent options we have to trade: JJ Horf Smoove ZaZa Teague Chances are slim and none we move any of these guys. Edited January 7, 2010 by Buzzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruJerz Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) ....Even if we find a way to beat the Heat in the playoffs, we're going to lose in the 2nd round. I would rather win 25 games and have a shot at Wall...(No, I'm not being serious) JJ doesn't sell tickets, hes not a 'give the ball to him, let him score type of player' he is a terrible leader, his shootingr is hot and cold (John Salmons)...he is a poor mans..everybody else. I'm sick and tired of looking at his stone face game after game. He brings nothing to this team, that we wouldn't have with Craw as the number 1 guy...just let him walk, I don't even care if we get Wade..hes not underrated..hes just not that good.. First of all, for those who took this thread serious, you must of missed where he said (No, Im not serious) but there is some truth to his(MVP23) post. I been a Joe Johnson fan for some yrs now. He's good and is one of the better scorers in the league but sometimes the guy just seems to be going through the motions. I dont think Joe Johnson is worth the max. He is gonna be 29 when his contract is over and he is not on the same level as a Bron, Kobe, or Wade so I dont think he is worth the max..I dont think a team with Joe Johnson as their best player can win a championship..he would be best playing with a player like Wade or Kobe. Luckily this Hawks team is pretty deep with talented guys who can score so he can have an off night(thanks to Jamal Crawford). I will still root for this team to win because im a Joe Johnson and Bibby fan and i really like this team but I think Joe Johnson needs to step up in a big way..not just his play but his leadership. If guys see Joe looking like he cares then we wont have games where we look like we dont wanna play. You're best play rubs off on the team whether you believe it or not. In the playoffs against the Celtics, Joe Johnson was pumped up and he had his best game of his career against the best defensive team in the league at the time. I just wish the guy would have that killer instinct all the time. Thats what seperate him from Kobe, Bron, and Wade IMO. With that said, we should not tank the season because we arent gettin Wall and we are a top 5-6 team in the league..we just need our leader to step up and play like a player who deserves a max everynight. We also need to play Jason Collins against the bigger and stronger teams..I been saying that for a while now. Hopefully Collins plays in the next 3 games against Boston twice and Magic. He can help out alot. Bibby and Horford are our leader whether you like it or not. Joe Johnson just doesnt have the personality of a leader but Hawks can still be as good as they want to be. Guys have to stick together and play hard and the sky is the limit for us. We dont need to trade Marvin or anyone. I'd trade JSmoove b4 i trade Marvin..Josh Smith still plays dumb at times and while he has the most potential, I think his value is also high and we can get much more in return by trading him instead of Marvin who I think plays his role well..he doesnt do anything outta line and he steps up in big games. But still, Hawks dont need to make any changes to the team..just need to get tougher..and it starts with Joe, our lone all star who wants the max. I think we blow Boston Celtics out at home BT...lets see lol Edited January 7, 2010 by TruJerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP23 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 There is a time and a place for tanking a season - this team is so far removed from both it isn't even funny. I said I wasn't serious about the tanking part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP23 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 How does the thread have -5 when 90% of the people here complain about Joe every other day?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlanta Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I love Hawksquawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted January 8, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 John Wall is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 NOOOOO... DON'T TANK!! I wouldn't bet on the Hawks loosing in the 2nd round either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Why do all that just so Mike Woodson can put another rookie PG in his dog house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted January 9, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Why do all that just so Mike Woodson can put another rookie PG in his dog house? Lol. If he started Bibby over Wall I would officially stop watching the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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