Something different in Hawks' play - Part II

[BrazilianHawk]

See that 1st round shape? That's the rim, not a made basket....

Look who's back! The MFn' Midrange Shawty!

SMFH. Plus 5 turnovers... 9 turnovers from our PGs didn't help either.

Edited March 2, 2013 by BrazilianHawk

[DJlaysitup]

Jeff teague has been playing well - and he can make a driving layup from the lrft side with the best of them...but this team needs a true PG to improve.

simple as that.

[DrReality]

Can't teach an old dot.......

[Wretch]

That's "only a few jump shots" and it's ok if Josh wants to just toss the ball into the air for no reason. Plenty of teams have missed shots and turnovers. If Josh wants to just throw the ball up there, well that's just fine. It doesn't hurt us at all...

[ag82]

See that 1st round shape? That's the rim, not a made basket....

Look who's back! The MFn' Midrange Shawty!

SMFH. Plus 5 turnovers... 9 turnovers from our PGs didn't help either.

We need to max that guy out ASAP.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

4 - 24 from 3 point range since the All-star break.11 total shots last night and 5 were 3's.It's ........ frustrating.

[Jody23]

Jeff teague has been playing well - and he can make a driving layup from the lrft side with the best of them...but this team needs a true PG to improve. simple as that.

Like who? Although he didn't play well, last nights loss was is no way totally on JT.

[ag82]

That is just a lot of wasted possession for a game that was fairly close in the 4th.

[Jody23]

4 - 24 from 3 point range since the All-star break.11 total shots last night and 5 were 3's.It's ........ frustrating.

Lol. And Dwight says it's unfortunate that he has never been able to team up with Josh. Lol. Let's me know his supposed desire to play with Josh is more about friendship than basketball.

[Diesel]

Jeff teague has been playing well - and he can make a driving layup from the lrft side with the best of them...but this team needs a true PG to improve.

simple as that.

True PG.

IS there any such thing anymore. I mean, I know you have Nash, Paul, Deron,and Parker... but aside from that, Teague is in the mold of what's out there now. Rose, guy in Cleveland, etc.

They're not making the Jason Kidds anymore.

[buckeye242424]

Weve had our best winning streak on the road in two years. It was the fourth game on a six game trip, out west and we started 3-0 on said trip. One bad game by our PG, who has been playing great, but we need a new one now. And the Smoove haters were just waiting for a bad game like a fly rubbing its front legs together...

[AHawks89]

Only a matter of time...

I was waiting for one of you guys to make at topic. After how well they've played in the past month or so, you guys will take any opportunity to bash the man. Do you think that's necessary? That being said, I agree that he had a terrible shot selection last night.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Only a matter of time... I was waiting for one of you guys to make at topic. After how well they've played in the past month or so, you guys will take any opportunity to bash the man. Do you think that's necessary? That being said, I agree that he had a terrible shot selection last night.

And that's why he gets bashed. Because the shot selection is ALWAYS an issue.I guarantee you had Josh went 2 - 11, but had all but about 2 of those shots be taken in the paint ( and no 3 point attempts ) no one would be "hating" on Josh. Instead, we have to talk about his shot selection in a game in which the shot was obviously not falling.Like I said, it's ............ disappointing.

[AHawks89]

And that's why he gets bashed. Because the shot selection is ALWAYS an issue.I guarantee you had Josh went 2 - 11, but had all but about 2 of those shots be taken in the paint ( and no 3 point attempts ) no one would be "hating" on Josh. Instead, we have to talk about his shot selection in a game in which the shot was obviously not falling.Like I said, it's ............ disappointing.

We know this already. And the fact that Josh, as well as Teague & Al have been playing consistently great basketball for a good while don't mean after one bad game, you go out of your way and bash him again. Teague didn't have a great game either. Everyone was off. If this was for 2-3 games I could understand, but pointing out one person out of the whole team has to stop. Give him a break. Our team has been playing great and has a tough schedule.

Let's see if they can get back on track tomorrow before we start pointing fingers again.

[Wretch]

We know this already. And the fact that Josh, as well as Teague & Al have been playing consistently great basketball for a good while don't mean after one bad game, you go out of your way and bash him again. Teague didn't have a great game either. Everyone was off. If this was for 2-3 games I could understand, but pointing out one person out of the whole team has to stop. Give him a break. Our team has been playing great and has a tough schedule.

Let's see if they can get back on track tomorrow before we start pointing fingers again.

You are totally missing the point. It's a 747 going right over your head dude. There has been only one point in this entire thread that even remotely put blame on Josh Smith for the loss. It's a valid one though, and it wasn't made by North.

Nobody else on this team dedicates a major portion of their game to something they absolutely cannot do. Nobody. We can post pictures of Josh's shots night after night and they will look the same. They are wasted opportunites and worse, they are INTENTIONALLY wasted. Josh knows he can't shoot that shot and he does it anyway.

Win or lose, in sports you always look to get better. With that, you examine your games and you ask, "what could we have done better?" Well, in the case of the Atlanta Hawks, I don't see how you can just ignore your primary scorer launching jump shots that have little chance of landing.

BTW...you getting a good idea who the Josh Haters are?

[AHawks89]

My point is that it's only been one game out of many. He's been playing awesome as of late. I guess I'm not the type of person to point out a player after one shitty performance out of many good ones in the past month. To each it's own.

That's just me.

Edited March 3, 2013 by AHawks89

[Ruckus]

He's been riding Horford and Teague's coattails. He has been playing pretty well but I'm not so sure he's necessarily been playing "great" though. Def not well enough to avoid scrutiny when in fact, over the course of the season, about half of his performances are like this.

[Wretch]

My point is that it's only been one game out of many. He's been playing awesome as of late. I guess I'm not the type of person to point out a player after one shitty performance out of many good ones in the past month. To each it's own.

That's just me.

You're taking the discussion in the wrong direction. As do the others who turn a blind eye to what he's doing. Just like Josh Smith himself, none of you understand the criticism. If this were one or two games - nobody would say anything. In fact, if these performances were that rare, Josh would have made several All-Star teams by now, there would have been no trade discussion, and there would be no questions regarding his contract.

But it's not a few games and this is not "a few jumpers." This is how he shoots every single game. Ironically, there are one or two games where he shoots decently. But there again, the defense is allowing him to shoot it. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that - where teams just allow a guy to do what he wants because they know he can't.

Lastly, nobody is blaming him for the loss. But when you have a loss, you have to examine what could have been done better. The first thing that should jump out at you is the fact that there is only one player trying to play WAY outside of his capabilities. It's inexcusable It doesn't mean he's a terrible player or that we "hate" him.

It means Josh Smith isn't bright enough OR mature enough to correct THE MOST BASIC AND GLARING FLAWS in his game. It could also mean that his coaches are enablers, but I doubt it. Either way, only the absolute most biased observer would argue that this is something trivial that doesn't need correcting.

[AHawks89]

Again, regardless who the players is, I'm not the type of person to go out of my way and criticize them. How many topics have you seen me make about criticizing a player? Zero. None.

If this was Al or Teague, I would be saying the same damn thing. All three have their flaws, but I'm not going out of my way to bring it up. Is this more clear? What I'm saying is that since they've been playing well, I think a few bad games should be able to "slide".

None of us are "blinded" by his shot selection. SMH... I don't know how to make it that much clearer.

Edited March 3, 2013 by AHawks89

[Wretch]