HawkItus Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I see teams are making moves and as we continue to win the big money teams will feel pressure to get better. Us being so good before trade deadline could have us creating some monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 No. Ok, but do you think we have a much higher ceiling to play beyond our current level? Teams who peak in the regular season seem to struggle in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 What moves do we need to make? I would love to trade for Jeff Green but not at the expense of our starters, Dennis or Edy. In that case, why would Boston do it? They wouldn't unless we traded our 2015 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post benhillboy Posted January 7, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) No, I doubt it. Cleveland giving up 2 first round picks for Mozgov guarantees their failure for a few more years. We're winning despite overcoming some major shortcoming in the stats every night. Bud is building habits to make the team better for that present day, tomorrow isn't a factor. This ain't the Spurs where they can take their foot off the pedal for rest and what have you. This team has shown they play as hard as they practice, nothing is changing about that. As long as we're as healthy as we are now, I have no qualms about this team besides Mike Scott stepping it up. Edited January 7, 2015 by benhillboy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gray Mule Posted January 7, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Do you truly believe that we've "Peaked" and we will get no better? Don't tell Bud. In his interviews after any game, he always mentions that there are a lot of areas we need to improve on. Peaked, to me, indicates that this is as good as it's going to get. I don't believe that we're there yet. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JETSET Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 No, I doubt it. Cleveland giving up 2 first round picks for Mozgov guarantees their failure for a few more years. We're winning despite overcoming some major shortcoming in the stats every night. Bud is building habits to make the team better for that present day, tomorrow isn't a factor. This ain't the Spurs where they can take their foot off the pedal for rest and what have you. This team has shown they play as hard as they practice, nothing is changing about that. As long as we're as healthy as we are now, I have no qualms about this team besides Mike Scott stepping it up. Cleveland is playing a dangerous game by mortgaging their future for lebron to build a team that likely wont make the Finals. Hes already proven that he will run if the going gets tough and I dont see these two trades making them good enough to beat us or Chicago in a 7 game series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 No, I doubt it. Cleveland giving up 2 first round picks for Mozgov guarantees their failure for a few more years. We're winning despite overcoming some major shortcoming in the stats every night. Bud is building habits to make the team better for that present day, tomorrow isn't a factor. This ain't the Spurs where they can take their foot off the pedal for rest and what have you. This team has shown they play as hard as they practice, nothing is changing about that. As long as we're as healthy as we are now, I have no qualms about this team besides Mike Scott stepping it up. They actually needed Mosgov, that's not a lost and I am quick to say when someone lost a deal but that's not a lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Do you truly believe that we've "Peaked" and we will get no better? Don't tell Bud. In his interviews after any game, he always mentions that there are a lot of areas we need to improve on. Peaked, to me, indicates that this is as good as it's going to get. I don't believe that we're there yet. I'm not sure GM. I hope you're right, but my goodness if they can get much better......I'm a little scared. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 What moves do we need to make? I would love to trade for Jeff Green but not at the expense of our starters, Dennis or Edy. In that case, why would Boston do it? They wouldn't unless we traded our 2015 1st. I'm not advocating any moves, except maybe JJ out so we can bring in Shuttlesworth. I just wonder what more this team has left in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 They actually needed Mosgov, that's not a lost and I am quick to say when someone lost a deal but that's not a lost. They didn't get him for free. Giving up two 1st rounders for mozgov when you are going to be capped out and unable to sign free agents is a problem. They do still have haywoods unguaranteed contract that they can trade in the off-season but it won't land them a difference maker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 They didn't get him for free. Giving up two 1st rounders for mozgov when you are going to be capped out and unable to sign free agents is a problem. They do still have haywoods unguaranteed contract that they can trade in the off-season but it won't land them a difference maker. But, CLE is in win now mode. They don't have any of their main guys locked up except for Irving. They need to win now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 But, CLE is in win now mode. They don't have any of their main guys locked up except for Irving. They need to win now. Thats not what lebron said in his lovely letter. He said he knew they wouldn't win quickly and the young guys have to grow. Dudes a clown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah, that is actually a great move for Cleveland I believe. Mozgov was the best big man on the market to be moved, and they did what they had to do to get it done. I may be higher on Mozgov than most, but they needed a big, and I think they got the only available one who could actually make a difference for them. I don't think you can criticize that move much-- if at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Its really funny how the trades seem to find their way to Lebron.. color me surprised.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah, that is actually a great move for Cleveland I believe. Mozgov was the best big man on the market to be moved, and they did what they had to do to get it done. I may be higher on Mozgov than most, but they needed a big, and I think they got the only available one who could actually make a difference for them. I don't think you can criticize that move much-- if at all. Varejao >> Mozgov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) I'll defer to Colin and Supes on how good Mozgov is, I wouldn't know. I do know that I'd want nothing less than a young present and future All-Star with no injury history for two Firsts, and that ain't Timmy "Oohh, I wanna be in your poster!" Mozzy. I'm also going on my opinion that the Cavaliers franchise is a dumpster fire so everything they do outside of wait for ping pong balls and sign LeBron is gonna be a disasterous move. Edited January 7, 2015 by benhillboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted January 7, 2015 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I don't think we've peaked because: Horford still isn't 100%. We have Bazemore and Thabo still fresh on Bud's system (although they are coming along) Schröder has good and bad stretches. Our starting PG on the bench that still has tons of room to grow. Pero still shooting terrible, but his FG% has been rising. Mike Scott hasn't been fully utilized yet. Team free throw shooting is atrocious. I believe we have yet to see the full playbook from Bud. We are at very good point right now, but I think we capable of more. This team is capable of blowing teams out every night. Gotta start being consistently good from the strike and our bench to do some learning/growing. I believe Teague could be better too although he has been great this season. I don't think he has hit his ceiling yet. I'd say the only players that are at peak performance are Korver, DMC, and Sap. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Why the heck didn't the Cavs just get Dalembert from NY also? That seems like the most logical solution. Paint and rim defense. Solves that problem. Doesn't solve the problem that LeBron's best minutes are at the 4 and so are Love's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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