The honeymoon is OVER for Bud

[TheNorthCydeRises]

None of us expected the Hawks to beat Cleveland.  Well, maybe a delusional few.  All we wanted the Hawks to do was to put up a good fight.  And for the most part they did.

But your defensive schemes and specifically your player rotations, put this team at a great disadvantage.

This sweep is on YOU Bud.  YOU need to take full responsibility for this.

Playing Kyle Korver over 30 minutes at night when he's giving you nothing, was a travesty.

Not playing Kris Humphries more, when he's a guy who's willing to bang on the inside, play scrappy defense, and even give you a little offense at the 5 position, was a travesty.

And your inability to make adjustments not only throughout the Cavaliers series, but also in the Boston series, just makes you look like a mediocre coach and not the Coach of the Year we saw last season.

The big line-up of Millsap, Humphries, and Horford could have saved you Bud.  But you refused to go to it.  And the Cavs made you pay DEARLY for it.

So now, in a year in which the Hawks have to make a major decision in which direction to go, the "honeymoon" is officially OVER for your a**.

You may have installed a great offensive and defensive system here, but we aren't the Spurs, and you're sure in the hell ain't no Greg Popovich!

With all of these good coaches getting fired by impatient owners, don't think for one minute that you're not above getting your head chopped off as well.   Those guys didn't hire you, so they probably have no loyalty to you.

I'm more pissed than mad.  A lot of what we saw in that series was a DIRECT result of your lineups.

It's just disappointing.  The fans deserve better than this. Bud .. show us that you're capable of being a top tier coach that manage players and situations in the playoffs.

So far, you're average.  Woefully average.

 

Edited May 8, 2016 by TheNorthCydeRises

[Lurker]

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

And your inability to make adjustments not only throughout the Cavaliers series, but also in the Boston series, just makes you look like a mediocre coach and not the Coach of the Year.

There was a lot of adjustments made in this series, but the right one was never come up with and the only one really was to place Korver in the doghouse entirely.

And there was one adjustment made in the first series.

[NBASupes]

I won't call him average, he coached his ass off but he could have did better with the substitution patterns.

[Dnice]

The humphries transaction was a big waste if you're not gonna play him.

[Guest]

Like i said previously some of this is definitely on Bud  but when your 3 'best players' - one on a max deal (Sap)  one looking for one shortly (Al) and the other in the prime of his career(Jeff) post season lows in the playoffs  that's  a problem.

[volman]

He could have played humph more. 

 

That said, we greatly out coached the Cavs. Should be 2-2 now. 

[Eddielives]

Welcome to overreaction theater.  Cleveland is still led by one of the greatest players of all time along with 2 others that are equally as good as anyone on our team.  Relax.  It sucks to lose but until we get lucky or whatever it's going to take to get even more talented, we're doing about the best we can.

[Guest]

Here's  a thought - maybe,  just maybe our players just aren't  good enough. This is who they are.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 minute ago, volman said:

He could have played humph more. 

 

That said, we greatly out coached the Cavs. Should be 2-2 now. 

How did we greatly outcoach the Cavs when they set an NBA record for 3s made in a series, in just 4 games?

They were being coached to double the ball handler and collapse the paint on anyone driving, which left 3 point shooters wide open all series.

[NBASupes]

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

How did we greatly outcoach the Cavs when they set an NBA record for 3s made in a series, in just 4 games?

They were being coached to double the ball handler and collapse the paint on anyone driving, which left 3 point shooters wide open all series.

If the drivers were Isaiah Thomas and Smart, it's one thing but LeBron and Kyrie can finish and dish with the best of them in the history of the game. Kyrie probably has the best handles of all time. What more could we do. Like most of the year, our lack of closer kills us as well as a lack of a scorer who can score at will. We need a superstar.

[benhillboy]

I can't see how anyone can say Lue didn't thoroughly outcoach Bud in good consciousness.  Their best player didn't dominate any stretches and they still swept.  The gameplan was to let the others beat us.  They did that with flying colors.  Lue has sense enough to allow his deadline acquisition to pay dividends.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

6 minutes ago, Eddielives said:

Welcome to overreaction theater.  Cleveland is still led by one of the greatest players of all time along with 2 others that are equally as good as anyone on our team.  Relax.  It sucks to lose but until we get lucky or whatever it's going to take to get even more talented, we're doing about the best we can.

Unacceptable response.

It's unacceptable because the ONLY times we've pushed a 1 or 2 seed in a playoff series, was when we were a low 7 or 8 seed ( in which both teams were below .500 in the regular season )

2008 Hawks with JJ, Al, Smoove, Marvin, Bibby, and Chill, pushed a 65 win ( and eventual NBA Champ ) Boston Celtics team to 7 games.

Then we did it again with a severely undermanned Hawk team in 2014 vs Indiana.

But a team with better players and a better coach can't even get 1 game?

Unacceptable.

 

 

[BigDog90]

8 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

I can't see how anyone can say Lue didn't thoroughly outcoach Bud in good consciousness.  Their best player didn't dominate any stretches and they still swept.  The gameplan was to let the others beat us.  They did that with flying colors.  Lue has sense enough to allow his deadline acquisition to pay dividends.

 

Right! Bud is a young coach, 3rd year. This should be a learning experience for him. Ferry and him a good job in constructing the team to win a lot of regular season games, now it's time to figure out how to make this team into a championship contender. GS did when they traded Monta for Bogut to get bigger and OKC when traded Green for Perkins and CLE when they traded Wiggins, Waiters, Varejao for Love, Shump, JR and Frye.

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, BigDog90 said:

Right! Bud is a young coach, 3rd year. This should be a learning experience for him. Ferry and him a good job in constructing the team to win a lot of regular season games, now it's time to figure out how to make this team into a championship contender. GS did when they traded Monta for Bogut to get bigger and OKC when traded Green for Perkins and CLE when they traded Wiggins, Waiters, Varejao for Love, Shump, JR and Frye.

Those are great trades. Which is why I say, I am all for keeping Jeff but if an attractive offer is on the table, move him. 

[NBASupes]

8 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Unacceptable response.

It's unacceptable because the ONLY times we've pushed a 1 or 2 seed in a playoff series, was when we were a low 7 or 8 seed ( in which both teams were below .500 in the regular season )

2008 Hawks with JJ, Al, Smoove, Marvin, Bibby, and Chill, pushed a 65 win ( and eventual NBA Champ ) Boston Celtics team to 7 games.

Then we did it again with a severely undermanned Hawk team in 2014 vs Indiana.

But a team with better players and a better coach can't even get 1 game?

Unacceptable.

 

 

None of those team had LeBron James. We are 0-12 v. LeBron James

[TheNorthCydeRises]

14 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

I can't see how anyone can say Lue didn't thoroughly outcoach Bud in good consciousness.  Their best player didn't dominate any stretches and they still swept.  The gameplan was to let the others beat us.  They did that with flying colors.  Lue has sense enough to allow his deadline acquisition to pay dividends.

They took Korver completely out of this series from minute 1.  They exploited our perimeter trapping defense by making the pass to open shooters.  They exploited our lack of defensive rebounding by occasionally sending 2 people to the offensive glass ( despite it not being necessary at times, with the way Thompson killed us on the offensive glass.  And they dared our less efficient 3 point shooters to make the shot.

Then they exploited the switching defense by matching Lebron up with the PG.

Lue not only outcoached Bud in this series, he made Bud look mediocre.

The kicker for me was what Horford said after Game 3, saying that they didn't prepare for Channing Frye.  How do you not prepare for him?  That's all he does.

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

They took Korver completely out of this series from minute 1.  They exploited our perimeter trapping defense by making the pass to open shooters.  They exploited our lack of defensive rebounding by occasionally sending 2 people to the offensive glass ( despite it not being necessary at times, with the way Thompson killed us on the offensive glass.  And they dared our less efficient 3 point shooters to make the shot.

Then they exploited the switching defense by matching Lebron up with the PG.

Lue not only outcoached Bud in this series, he made Bud look mediocre.

The kicker for me was what Horford said after Game 3, saying that they didn't prepare for Channing Frye.  How do you not prepare for him?  That's all he does.

He didn't say that. He said Frye and Love together.

[volman]

31 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

How did we greatly outcoach the Cavs when they set an NBA record for 3s made in a series, in just 4 games?

They were being coached to double the ball handler and collapse the paint on anyone driving, which left 3 point shooters wide open all series.

We don't have the talent to even compete with Cleveland. This was an A- coaching job. 

Again, the Cavs were historic from 3... You have scrubs like Jefferson and frye just crushing it from 3.. And if there were any dry spells, someone caught fire (like love or Irving). 

 

It it was just unreal how we kept these games so close. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

He didn't say that. He said Frye and Love together.

That's  not better.

[Kimsey]

The Hawks never had the horses to compete, just our life story.