Did the Hawks change their mind after a week?

[QuantumHawkz]

Korver was a liability on defense. We've seen that in last year's playoffs against Cleveland. JR would give Krover the business. That's it. The Hawks defense is the reason behind the seven game winning streak. My fellow squawkers, this is the identity of your Atlanta Hawks. Aggressive defense 1st. Offense 2nd. If they stick with this, they could very well find themselves in the ECF.       

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1 hour ago, QuantumHawkz said:

Korver was a liability on defense. We've seen that in last year's playoffs against Cleveland. JR would give Krover the business. That's it. The Hawks defense is the reason behind the seven game winning streak. My fellow squawkers, this is the identity of your Atlanta Hawks. Aggressive defense 1st. Offense 2nd. If they stick with this, they could very well find themselves in the ECF.       

I agree with every word you said except the last one...ECF? Been there done that...FINALS!!!

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9 hours ago, hazer said:

Somebody's been listening to Hazer ;)

Haha again? Really? You've been mad busy..Hazer ur new nickname shall be ...(PR)Patent Realtor :-)

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8 hours ago, kg01 said:

Call it fake.  Call it overblown conjecture.  Call it whatever you want.  That network trades in hyperbole and assumption.  Feel free to eat their "experts" tripe if you want.  I won't be in that buffet line.

SOMEBODY SAY BUFFET? You know I'd be in that buffet line. Git me sum chow mein, some southern fried chicken, some mash taters..mmmm mmmm good!

 

 

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6 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I said in another thread, what if there is another trade coming and we needed that future 1st to make a deal.

Attach it to Baze for a better player?

I like the way you think. Makes sense and very strategic and forward thinking. At this point, if that's the case I wonder are we going vet and experienced or like a super raw guy that we want to groom? Hmmm

[hazer]

3 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

Haha again? Really? You've been mad busy..Hazer ur new nickname shall be ...(PR)Patent Realtor :-)

You copyrighting that?

[Gray Mule]

Thoughts from the old man:

KK, even if he is on the back side of the hill, is still a capable player.  He is a

beat slower on both offence and defense.  The Cavs were in need of his various

skills.  We expect them to, once again, have a great chance to win it all.  If

they do, KK will get his elusive ring.  That's what I like best about this deal.

On the other subject:  Millsap.

What if, and this is strictly a wild guess with no basis of facts, this happened.

There is no way that any NBA team can prevent other teams from asking, "What

would you think of this deal for your player?"

We know Millsap was ask about.  Suppose, after a week of this, he told Atlanta

that he didn't want to leave.  He was happy here and intended to resign with

the Hawks if they made a reasonable offer at season end.  Believing this, we

then told everyone to forget Millsap.  He wasn't on the market.

 

 

[Thomas]

Interesting that the one part of Prince's game we have been worried about is his three shot and it was fine last night. Fifty percent last night in what seems like his first true time in the  ten man rotation. The guy really moved around fast and hard too.

[Thomas]

8 hours ago, sturt said:

But this isn't the old 6 on 6 girls version of the game, and Kyle can't just camp out on one side of the court.

Believe thats what it will be for Kyle in Cleveland. A lot of camping out on offense. He's there to hit open long range shots at a good percentage and for no other reason.

[REHawksFan]

9 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Believe thats what it will be for Kyle in Cleveland. A lot of camping out on offense. He's there to hit open long range shots at a good percentage and for no other reason.

I really like Kyle and wish him well, but I think he's becoming more of a liability.  Maybe with the Cavs they have enough elite pieces to cover that up, but they surely aren't an elite defense so far and Kyle is just going to make that worse.  If he's not making at a high %, I don't see how it's worth having him on the court. 

He started out last night 1-5 (0-2 from 3pt) with 2 pts in a loss to Utah.  He was -11 for the game, continuing a trend of being -2.46 for the season in RPM. 

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1 hour ago, hazer said:

You copyrighting that?

Lol...haha...you are straight outta control :-)

[macdaddy]

13 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I said in another thread, what if there is another trade coming and we needed that future 1st to make a deal.

Attach it to Baze for a better player?

Yes.  That'd be great but this sure doesn't sound like something the Hawks would do.   

13 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I said in another thread, what if there is another trade coming and we needed that future 1st to make a deal.

Attach it to Baze for a better player?

Yes.  That'd be great but this sure doesn't sound like something the Hawks would do.   

[AHF]

10 hours ago, sturt said:

Can the others have a better net performance with those minutes now vacated by his exit? THjr's doing really good, Prince and Bembry not so much in their relatively limited action. And yet, they all represent a substantial improvement over Kyle's body of work.

The +/- stat is the only one where Kyle is close to Prince and Bembry and they are nearly as bad as him in that one.  Every other stat shows Kyle has been much better this season.  I still contend his proper role should have been limited minutes off the bench from the beginning and every stat of his improved when he was finally put in something closer to that role (including his +/-).

[AHF]

2 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

 If he's not making at a high %, I don't see how it's worth having him on the court. 

This is absolutely right but he is making his 3's at very high % so he'll have some very good nights in Cleveland.  I agree his defense has continued to deteriorate which is why he isn't a no brainer impact reserve anymore and is now just a stud shooting specialist who you can't always put on the floor depending on the matchup.

[hazer]

2 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

Lol...haha...you are straight outta control :-)

 

[macdaddy]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

The +/- stat is the only one where Kyle is close to Prince and Bembry and they are nearly as bad as him in that one.  Every other stat shows Kyle has been much better this season.  I still contend his proper role should have been limited minutes off the bench from the beginning and every stat of his improved when he was finally put in something closer to that role (including his +/-).

I believer in +/- somewhat for starters but as an individual evaluation for guys playing limited minutes off the bench so much depends on who you are playing with and relatively small swings in the score.   

[DS5]

7 hours ago, Spud2Nique said:

I like the way you think. Makes sense and very strategic and forward thinking. At this point, if that's the case I wonder are we going vet and experienced or like a super raw guy that we want to groom? Hmmm

Baze + Cleveland's 1st for Wesley Matthews. 

[Thomas]

Prince in his first true ten man rotation minutes of this NBA season. Looks like a plus to me.

T. PrinceSF

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[AHF]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Prince in his first true ten man rotation minutes of this NBA season. Looks like a plus to me.

T. PrinceSF

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Thrilled to see him getting real minutes.  We'll learn more as he develops and we get a meaningful sample size of games.  Not a bad start at all.

Now only question is whether he realized he was no longer playing in the D-League when he faced off against the Nets.

[Thomas]

4 minutes ago, AHF said:

Now only question is whether he realized he was no longer playing in the D-League when he faced off against the Nets.

Just has that NBA defensive feel to me. Hustles and think that will pay off. Guess he'll have some of the early stuff Dennis went through acclimating to the minutes but it needed to happen. Maybe he really counts by playoff time. Thinking he will be prepared for then by being in the rotation now.