Bonkers Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/head-coach-nate-mcmillan-and-some-of-hawks-players-dont-like-trae-young All isn't well in the Atlanta Hawks camp and Trae Young finds himself in the middle of the brewing storm. Earlier, it was reported that Young and coach Nate McMillan appeared to have a falling out amid what has been a rather up-and-down season for the Hawks, and a recent update adds some unnamed players in the mix. Per Heavy's Steve Bulpett, it's been a tumultuous time in the Atlanta camp, and according to his sources, the tension between the coach and the player is quite salty. “When they win, everybody’s happy for a minute,” said one. “But when they lose, it gets messy. Instead of trying to get it figured out, there’s a lot of blame being thrown around.” Said another, “I just know there’s a big problem between the two. His father’s involved. Trae’s trying to get Nate canned.” One opposing coach summed it thusly: “He doesn’t like the coach, the coach doesn’t like him, and other players have issues with Trae also.” The analyst added their relationship went downhill after the guard chose not to attend the home game against the Denver Nuggets earlier this month. NBA Executive Says Situation In Atlanta Is "Toxic" And Is Getting Worse Bulpett's report had comments from league executives, and the picture isn't pretty. This comes in the wake of some changes that were rung in the front office with team president Travis Schlenk being moved to a senior advisory role. He will be replaced by GM Landry Fields. According to ESPN, Schlenk said he stepped down to focus on family, while the 34-year-old Fields will move to the role after being promoted to GM earlier this year. "Throughout this season, [Hawks owner Tony Ressler] and I have had multiple, honest conversations about some of the personal things I've been going through and how I've been feeling, and I appreciate the counsel he has provided me as well as the opportunity he gave me six seasons ago to be a first-time general manager," he said in the statement announcing the news. "As we enter a new year, the timing feels right for me to take a step back, reflect and prioritize my family." "I am proud of the group I assembled both on the floor and in the front office. We have built a strong foundation for the Hawks franchise and achieved a high level of success. As an advisor, I look forward to working with Tony and Landry and continuing to make contributions in less visible but still impactful ways." On the season front, the Hawks are placed eighth in the East with a 16-16 record after their 110-108 loss to the Chicago Bulls. Young had a solid outing with 34 points, 6 rebounds, and as many assists, but it wasn't enough to see his side through. Reports of a John Collins trade for an upgrade continues to do the rounds, but there's enough drama that needs to be sorted out first. With enough basketball to be played, it remains to be seen how Young, McMillan, and the players can solve the turbulent situation in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 While I agree that there is a lot of fuel that's been added to the fire when it comes to Trae, this is the easiest article on the planet to write. Simply because anyone who has watched this team for any amount of time can see that there are communication issues. This article is meh to me. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 22, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Seems like clickbait. Seen this quote before. If it's true, there is not much that will need to be done to get Nate fired. Our record will do that on its own. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Trae can be a little bit defensive and prickly at times, and Nate is a no nonsense kind of guy. It might not be a good personality match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Trae can be a little bit defensive and prickly at times, and Nate is a no nonsense kind of guy. It might not be a good personality match. That's only a match if the coach is as good at his job as the player is at his. We have a mismatch at this point. And if there are any coaches or players that don't like Trae, they can leave. Seriously, who on this team is as reliable at what they've been asked to do? Honestly, the only one close to that is now in Sacramento, imho. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Jdawgflow Posted December 22, 2022 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, kg01 said: That's only a match if the coach is as good at his job as the player is at his. We have a mismatch at this point. And if there are any coaches or players that don't like Trae, they can leave. Seriously, who on this team is as reliable at what they've been asked to do? Honestly, the only one close to that is now in Sacramento, imho. I agree with all of this except I would add CC to those that are reliable in doing what they are asked to do (even if he is not reliable in his health and availability to play). 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jdawgflow said: I agree with all of this except I would add CC to those that are reliable in doing what they are asked to do (even if he is not reliable in his health and availability to play). Agreed ... unless we're talking about layups. Then it's a dicey proposition. On another note, is it pretty much clear all these leaks are coming from McMillan and Collins? I abhore instability so I don't want us to have to change coaches or trade away key guys. But if the locker room isn't united behind Trae, those guys gotta go. Unless folks want us to trade away the only all-star, all-NBA guy to build(sic) around guys that need Trae to prop them up in the first dang place. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jdawgflow Posted December 22, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, kg01 said: Agreed ... unless we're talking about layups. Then it's a dicey proposition. On another note, is it pretty much clear all these leaks are coming from McMillan and Collins? I abhore instability so I don't want us to have to change coaches or trade away key guys. But if the locker room isn't united behind Trae, those guys gotta go. Unless folks want us to trade away the only all-star, all-NBA guy to build(sic) around guys that need Trae to prop them up in the first dang place. Oh yeah. CC is a PETA fan. He never wants to finish off a bunny! Nate and JC are very likely the culprits. I have to ride with Trae on this (but I would like for him to chill out with the fussiness and mature faster. I mean you just had a kid. Time to grow up. But I guess >$200mil can get in your head a bit). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 I don't think it's fair to disparage JC. He's having a down year on the court, but he's always been known to be a team guy, a leader, an encourager. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted December 22, 2022 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Yeah it's becoming obvious i think that JC wants to go. Although I'm not sure that's going to be the great thing he might think it is. 50% of the head coach job is making relationships work with guys who are a pain in the ass. In this NBA if you can't do that you got to go. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jdawgflow Posted December 22, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, bleachkit said: I don't think it's fair to disparage JC. He's having a down year on the court, but he's always been known to be a team guy, a leader, an encourager. I don’t believe saying JC is likely the guy talking about Trae is disparaging him. JC is a good teammate in that he plays whatever role is needed. And he is a leader and encourager. But there is indeed history with Trae and JC butting heads. And JC is objectively not playing nearly as well this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, bleachkit said: I don't think it's fair to disparage JC. He's having a down year on the court, but he's always been known to be a team guy, a leader, an encourager. That's what I've always thought but there's too much smoke here that he and Trae aren't close ... and now all the 'Trae's a bad guy' stuff keeps coming out. Who has incentive to have the world think that? Nate and the perennially "about to be traded" guy. It shifts blame off them for why things aren't going well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, kg01 said: That's what I've always thought but there's too much smoke here that he and Trae aren't close ... and now all the 'Trae's a bad guy' stuff keeps coming out. Who has incentive to have the world think that? Nate and the perennially "about to be traded" guy. It shifts blame off them for why things aren't going well. That's still conjecture. Blaming them for bait click hit pieces is not fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedDogs Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just let Rayford and his little daddy go home. Send SGA over here and lets run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bleachkit said: That's still conjecture. Blaming them for bait click hit pieces is not fair. Perhaps. But it's also unfair for folks (not meaning you) to take these click bait hit pieces and bring them here as "evidence" against Trae. I know, I know. 2 wrongs don't make a right.. and all that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 22, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, StonedDogs said: Just let Rayford and his little daddy go home. Send SGA over here and lets run No thanks. You don't like Trae's selfishness? The guy who shoots 20 shots a game with half as many assists isn't going to feel better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 22, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, StonedDogs said: Just let Rayford and his little daddy go home. Send SGA over here and lets run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedDogs Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, macdaddy said: No thanks. You don't like Trae's selfishness? The guy who shoots 20 shots a game with half as many assists isn't going to feel better. Dude this team is not a championship team. And many teams aren't. They're not going back to ECF the way its currently ran and constructed. You're gonna have a revolving door of coaches to fit one player style of play, you're gonna have players traded in and out to fit one player style of play, and a fall guy GM who will eventually get canned trying to piece together a team to fit the play of one 6ft pg who cannot play a lick of defense. How do you win like that? How are you satisfied? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StonedDogs Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Diesel said: was better at 23, 24..had a better coach, better team and still no chip. It aint easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, macdaddy said: No thanks. You don't like Trae's selfishness? The guy who shoots 20 shots a game with half as many assists isn't going to feel better. I feel there's a lotta folks that don't understand how the NBA works. Too much 2k franchise mode probably. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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