BR top 💯 for 2023-24

[Spud2nique]

Apparently the staff did the rankings and then they had a fan vote . In the fan vote, Dejounte was 44th (BR staff had him at 47) Trae in at 25 (BR had him at 30).

Still think Trae is a top 15 talent on this board but whatever.

25. Trae Young (30th)

 

 

100. John Collins (Ranked 93rd by B/R's NBA Staff)

99. Jaden McDaniels (97th)

98. Keldon Johnson (78th)

97. Shaedon Sharpe (Not Ranked)

96. Bruce Brown (88th)

95. Bojan Bogdanović (94th)

94. Tobias Harris (100th)

93. Jaden Ivey (Not Ranked)

92. Robert Williams (87th)

91. Alperen Şengün (82nd)

90. Nic Claxton (Ranked 96th by B/R's NBA Staff)

89. Bennedict Mathurin (94th)

88. Derrick White (68th)

87. Malcolm Brogdon (89th)

86. Josh Hart (99th)

85. Jabari Smith Jr. (84th)

84. Jalen Williams (85th)

83. Nikola Vučević (81st)

82. Walker Kessler (86th)

81. Brook Lopez (79th)

80. Keegan Murray (Ranked 92nd by B/R's NBA Staff)

79. Rudy Gobert (62nd)

78. Anfernee Simons (74th)

77. Chris Paul (69th)

76. Cameron Johnson (67th)

75. RJ Barrett (91st)

74. Kyle Kuzma (77th)

73. Jerami Grant (56th)

72. Draymond Green (49th)

71. Jordan Poole (76th)

70. Jalen Green (Ranked 80th by B/R's NBA Staff)

69. Jarrett Allen (64th)

68. Scoot Henderson (83rd)

67. Myles Turner (57th)

66. Marcus Smart (71st)

65. Franz Wagner (52nd)

64. Deandre Ayton (54th)

63. Tyler Herro (66th)

62. CJ McCollum (75th)

61. Aaron Gordon (65th)

60. Chet Holmgren (Ranked 73rd by B/R's NBA Staff)

59. Scottie Barnes (53rd)

58. Michael Porter Jr. (71st)

57. Fred VanVleet (59th)

56. Desmond Bane (61st)

55. Khris Middleton (50th)

54. Austin Reaves (69th)

53. O.G. Anunoby (46th)

52. Josh Giddey (57th)

51. Andrew Wiggins (45th)

50. Klay Thompson (Ranked 60th by B/R's NBA Staff)

49. Kristaps Porziņģis (43rd)

48. Cade Cunningham (39th)

47. Tyrese Maxey (51st)

46. Evan Mobley (41st)

45. Julius Randle (55th)

44. Dejounte Murray (47th)

43. Victor Wembanyama (63rd)

42. Jrue Holiday (37th)

41. James Harden (22nd)

40. Zach LaVine (Ranked 44th by B/R's NBA Staff)

39. DeMar DeRozan (42nd)

38. LaMelo Ball (48th)

37. Bradley Beal (34th)

36. Darius Garland (38th)

35. Paolo Banchero (40th)

34. Lauri Markkanen (32nd)

33. Zion Williamson (28th)

32. Pascal Siakam (24th)

31. Brandon Ingram (29th)

30. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Ranked 31st by B/R's NBA Staff)

29. Domantas Sabonis (35th)

28. Karl-Anthony Towns (23rd)

27. Jalen Brunson (36th)

26. Mikal Bridges (25th)

25. Trae Young (30th)

24. Paul George (18th)

23. Bam Adebayo (27th)

22. Kyrie Irving (25th)

21. Tyrese Haliburton (33rd)

20. Jamal Murray (Ranked 16th by B/R's NBA Staff)

19. Kawhi Leonard (13th)

18. Ja Morant (21st)

17. Jaylen Brown (19th)

16. De'Aaron Fox (17th)

15. Anthony Davis (10th)

14. Donovan Mitchell (20th)

13. Jimmy Butler (12th)

12. Damian Lillard (14th)

11. Devin Booker (9th)

10. Anthony Edwards (Ranked 15th by B/R's NBA Staff)

9. LeBron James (7th)

8. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (11th)

7. Kevin Durant (8th)

6. Joel Embiid (4th)

5. Jayson Tatum (5th)

4. Nikola Jokić (1st)

3. Stephen Curry (6th)

2. Luka Dončić (3rd)

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (2nd)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AHF]

I just struggle to figure out what Ja does to earn these accolades.  He plays the same position as Trae.  He has scored fewer points and been less efficient for his career.  He can't playmake like Trae and is nowhere near a leader.  He misses 25-30% of every season.  His team has won 2 games outside the first round of the playoffs.  His teams have won a higher % of games without him than with him (I don't think this speaks to his individual play as much as it does to him being underserving of extra credit for regular season wins by his team).  

But there he is as a top 20 or so player above Trae on every list.  

On this list, having Jokic as the #4 player is kind of a joke given that he should be coming off his third consecutive MVP and his first championship.

[Jdawgflow]

4 minutes ago, AHF said:

I just struggle to figure out what Ja does to earn these accolades.  He plays the same position as Trae.  He has scored fewer points and been less efficient for his career.  He can't playmake like Trae and is nowhere near a leader.  He misses 25-30% of every season.  His team has won 2 games outside the first round of the playoffs.  His teams have won a higher % of games without him than with him (I don't think this speaks to his individual play as much as it does to him being underserving of extra credit for regular season wins by his team).  

But there he is as a top 20 or so player above Trae on every list.  

On this list, having Jokic as the #4 player is kind of a joke given that he should be coming off his third consecutive MVP and his first championship.

This.  The whole list is moot after that.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

On this list, having Jokic as the #4 player is kind of a joke

No kidding, anything outside of the top 2 after the year he had us just… I dunno, wrong.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

His teams have won a higher % of games without him than with him

This is true and speaks volumes. Look, dude is exciting when he’s not doing the whole gun show thing but he’s not as calculated in his attack of the offense as Trae imo. Trae honestly looks to pass first, he has said it multiple times that he prefers a dime to a bucket for himself, the same can’t be said about Ja, dude wants to make a ton of highlight plays and wham on folks, again entertaining but let’s see how much they win this year.. (after his suspension).. before it I think they’ll be tough, Marcus Smart can hold his own and might even lead them to a better team record than what they will finish with once Ja is back.

 

If I wanna win a game I got Trae>Ja and Smart>Ja as well.

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

100. John Collins (Ranked 93rd by B/R's NBA Staff)

Glad JC stayed in the with the fan vote . Our dude! 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

5. Jayson Tatum (5th)

The only player that matched BR staff rankings as well as the fans rankings. 

 

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

41. James Harden (22nd)

Not a happy camper…  

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

72. Draymond Green (49th)

Not a happy camper part II 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

79. Rudy Gobert (62nd)

Fans still remember the Covid mic  

 

Either that or a case of Goberrated!!! {Burd }  

[Spud2nique]

The fans seem pretty smart here in some instances. 
 

Trae is top 15 though, this list is off, I’d even put Dejounte top 30-35.

[akay]

2 hours ago, AHF said:

I just struggle to figure out what Ja does to earn these accolades

Might you consider that YAMMING the ball is >>> than

 

2 hours ago, AHF said:

he has scored fewer points and been less efficient for his career.  He can't playmake like Trae and is nowhere near a leader.  He misses 25-30% of every season.  His team has won 2 games outside the first round of the playoffs.  His teams have won a higher % of games without him than with him

[akay]

2 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

15. Anthony Davis (10th)

14. Donovan Mitchell (20th)

13. Jimmy Butler (12th)

12. Damian Lillard (14th)

11. Devin Booker (9th)

10. Anthony Edwards (Ranked 15th by B/R's NBA Staff)

9. LeBron James (7th)

8. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (11th)

7. Kevin Durant (8th)

6. Joel Embiid (4th)

5. Jayson Tatum (5th)

4. Nikola Jokić (1st)

3. Stephen Curry (6th)

2. Luka Dončić (3rd)

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (2nd)

Lookin at this id move Shai and Ant out of the top 10, and put Trae at 9. 

Book ain't better, Shai ain't better, Ant ain't better

Trae clears so many of these dudes, putting him at 30 is totally braindead to me.

[Diesel]

6 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

 

25. Trae Young (30th)

24. Paul George (18th)

23. Bam Adebayo (27th)

22. Kyrie Irving (25th)

21. Tyrese Haliburton (33rd)

20. Jamal Murray (Ranked 16th by B/R's NBA Staff)

19. Kawhi Leonard (13th)

18. Ja Morant (21st)

17. Jaylen Brown (19th)

16. De'Aaron Fox (17th)

15. Anthony Davis (10th)

14. Donovan Mitchell (20th)

13. Jimmy Butler (12th)

12. Damian Lillard (14th)

11. Devin Booker (9th)

10. Anthony Edwards (Ranked 15th by B/R's NBA Staff)

9. LeBron James (7th)

8. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (11th)

7. Kevin Durant (8th)

6. Joel Embiid (4th)

5. Jayson Tatum (5th)

4. Nikola Jokić (1st)

3. Stephen Curry (6th)

2. Luka Dončić (3rd)

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (2nd)

 

 

The list of blatant Disrespect. 

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Trae was #12 on their list last season.

No Dre Hunter in the top 100.

Siakam not in the top 30 this year just proves that people don't watch the league.

 

[Spud2nique]

9 hours ago, akay said:

Lookin at this id move Shai and Ant out of the top 10, and put Trae at 9. 

Those aren’t the dudes I’d move myself. I like both those cats and think they are worthy.

I would target dudes that are fading:

KD- how is he still up there? How many games has he played; they need to factor that in.

Devin Booker- What has he done to be ahead of Trae? He’s been overrated since he put up 60 points in Boston, that was one game folks. He’s part of a big 3 now so even less.

Fox- Like the guy a lot but he can’t be ahead of Trae, no way. He had an awesome season last year but he won’t be better than Trae this year.

PG13- He don’t play he’s made of glass.

Kyme- This cat should be out of the top 50 just for the amount of drama he WILL CAUSE AGAIN THIS YEAR. He just won’t stop being annoying  

[Spud2nique]

5 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Siakam not in the top 30 this year just proves that people don't watch the league.

Thank you!!!! I know some squawkers will be eyeing Siakam this year and thus watching him more, dude is legit. 

[macdaddy]

It's Ja and SGA that are annoying to me.  And i like SGA.  But how are these guys getting so much love for doing nothing.   When Trae turned in a season like SGA just had they called it empty stats and a foul merchant.  And Trae had double the assists.  

[AHF]

4 hours ago, macdaddy said:

It's Ja and SGA that are annoying to me.  And i like SGA.  But how are these guys getting so much love for doing nothing.   When Trae turned in a season like SGA just had they called it empty stats and a foul merchant.  And Trae had double the assists.  

Same.  Add Fox in there too.  None of them have Trae's track record or his peak.  And they are all about the same age.  I think too many of the press predicted he would bust and it hurts them to be that wrong, and Trae had zero qualms about embarrassing vets on the floor right out of the gate so there is resentment towards him from some fellow players as well.  Add in your hurt feelings Knicks and Philly fans and the natural bias against all things Atlanta Hawks, and you get a generational player being vastly underrated relative to the praise given to his peers.

At least Lillard has a track record of sustained excellence.  Haliburton, Fox, SGA and Ja have a grand total of 2 wins beyond the first round of the playoffs between them and don't have the sustained numbers to match Trae's individual excellence.

[Spud2nique]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:04 PM, Spud2nique said:

25. Trae Young (30th)

Trae ranks 19th overall in 2K ratings..

Shouldn’t he be in the 17-21 range in top 100 for 2023-24? 
 

I know they don’t parallel exactly but.. 

19…… is far from 25, 30. 
 

Trae is underrated by social media, the league, the writers and the non Hawk fans.

 

[AHF]

13 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Trae ranks 19th overall in 2K ratings..

Shouldn’t he be in the 17-21 range in top 100 for 2023-24? 
 

I know they don’t parallel exactly but.. 

19…… is far from 25, 30. 
 

Trae is underrated by social media, the league, the writers and the non Hawk fans.

 

I think any arguments being made from 2K ratings is pretty suspect.  They do their best but they have limited knowledge of basketball as we see every year.  For example, from what I've seen on the 2K thread they think Trae's 3pt shot is equal to Bogi's and his dunking is equal to JJ.  Crazy on both fronts (obviously Bogi has a much stronger track record on 3's and JJ is a dramatically better dunker) -- but expected for a video game.  Between NBALive, 2K, and the other games over the years the video game people have missed things on their ratings every year for the 30 or so years they've been doing it.

BR and these other rankings coming from supposed experts on the NBA don't have that excuse.  They need to do better.

[Wretch]

He's easily top 15.

[Spud2nique]

15 hours ago, AHF said:

I think any arguments being made from 2K ratings is pretty suspect.  They do their best but they have limited knowledge of basketball as we see every year.  For example, from what I've seen on the 2K thread they think Trae's 3pt shot is equal to Bogi's and his dunking is equal to JJ.  Crazy on both fronts (obviously Bogi has a much stronger track record on 3's and JJ is a dramatically better dunker) -- but expected for a video game.  Between NBALive, 2K, and the other games over the years the video game people have missed things on their ratings every year for the 30 or so years they've been doing it.

Why no advancement in this field in 30 years that’s kinda nutty. No?